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Tube Rolling Issues

Post by hangleng on Thu Jun 25, 2009 11:01 am

We all know that the tube power amp consists of input tubes, output tubes and rectifier. The issues are as follow:

1. What is the tube life span for the above categories.
2. For tube rolling, can we replacing power tubes more often than input tubes and rectifier tubes.
3. If we change only power/ output tubes, will the combination of new and old tubes causing problem to sound reproduction.

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Re: Tube Rolling Issues

Post by lkm on Thu Jun 25, 2009 12:49 pm

1. Input tubes can last about 5,000 hrs, output tubes, 3,000 hrs. How long they last also depends on their quality of manufacture. My amp came with China made tubes and one KT88 tube blew within 2 weeks. They do sound not too bad though.
2. Yes if you want to but tubes do need time to settle. The tube's audio signature can only be discern after some period of breaking in and how long to break in varies. Speaking from experience, give or take 100 hrs. Btw, the difference in sound is greater when changing input tubes compared to output tubes.
3. Biasing would be a problem. The tubes start to wear out from day 1 of using the amp and over time biasing is required to keep the tubes performing at their optimum level. As I'm not the DIY type, I opted for an amp with an auto biasing feature which takes care of this problem.

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Re: Tube Rolling Issues

Post by chua55 on Thu Jun 25, 2009 2:03 pm

auto bias or cathode bias means the same thing anyway. It is not completely proof and it is a good practice to check it occasionally for better performance. Contrary to popular believe tubes are costly maintenance issues, that is becos care is not given. for all you may know, tubes can withstand abuse more harshly than sands.

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Re: Tube Rolling Issues

Post by hangleng on Thu Jun 25, 2009 3:46 pm

My monoblock power amp is using all together 26 sovtek tubes. So it seems that I do not have to change ALL the tubes one shot but 8 of the power tubes only. But how do we know when to change the tubes as I do not have a tube tester.

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Re: Tube Rolling Issues

Post by Lamkochai on Thu Jun 25, 2009 10:43 pm

i dont agree that changing power tubes make less difference compare to input tube. my unison research amp sounds 200% better after changing from stock sovtek kt88 to reissue goldlion kt88. bass is deeper and tighter and the soundstage improves tremendously too.

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Re: Tube Rolling Issues

Post by chua55 on Thu Jun 25, 2009 11:27 pm

Your ears are the best tube tester.

Every piece of gear is designed for a purpose. Changing components would yield a difference depending on the state.

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Re: Tube Rolling Issues

Post by is_jalil on Tue Jan 05, 2010 10:04 am

Hi,

Would like to seek an advise. When shld we change the tube? Shld we wait till the tube blows out.

When the tube blows out, it does produce a pop sound, will it damage the other equipments (speaker/cd player etc)?

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Re: Tube Rolling Issues

Post by OutdoorXplorer on Tue Jan 05, 2010 12:18 pm

I am tired of tube rolling on my headamp setup but happy with those that I am having.

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Re: Tube Rolling Issues

Post by cmboy on Tue Jan 05, 2010 12:31 pm

A change of 4 tubes into a Klimo ViV Phono stage brought it back to life. The old tubes were only some 4 years old and sounded so drab and lazy prior to the replacement. Bunch of ECC81 and 6922 tubes.
At the rate I'm playing my amps, I'd change them every 3 years.

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