Ho's LS3/5A monitor users

I wonder what the users think about the monitors above living close the sound of the legend. Is it close enough and miles apart. your impression please.

sounds very good!

worth every penny

which LS 3/5a u compare to ? Roger, KEF or Chartwell?

the 3/5A plays the human voice and instrument with realism as found in Jospeh Ki KEF. sadly have not tried Ho's LS but it looks like GINI is a similar unit. the GINI unit dont really live close to it.

Are the Ho's ls3/5a sanctioned by the BBC ?

The chinese are good at it. But the consumer is getting smarter with it.

chua55 wrote:which LS 3/5a u compare to ? Roger, KEF or Chartwell?

the 3/5A plays the human voice and instrument with realism as found in Jospeh Ki KEF. sadly have not tried Ho's LS but it looks like GINI is a similar unit. the GINI unit dont really live close to it.

Gini is using Ho's components I think.

Well, I have a pair of Ho's and I've heard them next to a Roger's LS 3/5A (I think its the 11 ohm one) and Harbeths P3 at a friend's place and basically I find the Ho's to have a bit more bite. I personally found the Ho's to be more transparent than both the Rogers and Harbeths but alternative comments range from it being 'faster' to 'brighter' compared to the Rogers and Harbeths.

I guess it depends on what kind of music you like listening to... if youre into vocals the way to go would be with the Harbeths or Rogers but as for me, I prefer the more dynamic "kick" that comes with the Ho's...

But rest assured the Ho's are NO pushovers and can hold their own in esteemed company. I also compared them with the Vienna Acoustic Bachs (the small ones?) and SF Concertino and they both sounded "dead" by comparison. Then again, I used my ears....I guess we should all judge them using our own. One man's meat may be someone else's poison...

I have heard of th Ho's w/o the sub in a hifi shop, driven to mad loudness. The lit Ho's can take it. It really opend my eyes. The differences are Ho's is more dynamics, less nasal and without the midbass bloat that could make people mistaken low bass. The BBC version edges out on vocal and perhaps more finesse. Anyway, LS35a is overhyped.
I have owned and sold off Roger LS35a and AB1, I never came to that level of dynamics.
I am now considering buying a pair of Ho's. And for the price, it is a steel. To make them sing, I would probably make my amp to work.

Just saw a pair of HO's ls3/5 on sale at lelong and for the price it is way more expensive. Thanks for the impressions and this product is quite good anyway.

chua55 wrote:which LS 3/5a u compare to ? Roger, KEF or Chartwell?

the 3/5A plays the human voice and instrument with realism as found in Jospeh Ki KEF. sadly have not tried Ho's LS but it looks like GINI is a similar unit. the GINI unit dont really live close to it.

I mean the Ho's

sound very close to Rogers LS 3/5A

Anyway, they r juz copy cat. vocal n high can be close but yet is juz not there. In term of build quality..hmm..still way to go compare wth the original LS3/5A. Well, time will tell the truth. Lets c what will happened after 10 years. Original Ls3/5A, wth reasonably play and care, the driver will easily last more than 20+ yrs. Its proven.. pls check wth local collectors.

Ya...agree with tubejunkie...hope their components hold up well over time...... I have a pair Rogers 11ohm, components still in very good shape till now..
And hello jclow... is it you that came to my place when I had the P3, Ho's & my Rogers 11ohm ?? Was a nice session and I agree it is really depend on your music preference .... anyway apart from concern of longevity of its parts... the Ho's delivers very well in comparison to many in the same price range...

Hi Cham, yes I'm the guy who was at your place...heh heh... Ideally, I think everybody should have 2 sets to cater for almost all genres, ie one fronted by LS35a's or Harbeth's and the other fronted by Ho's...of course not many of us have the space nor the money...

hi guys, what so famous about LS3/5A? sorry, ive heard of it
but never get to know better & why was it consider legendary

azri wrote:hi guys, what so famous about LS3/5A? sorry, ive heard of it
but never get to know better & why was it consider legendary

This link would help: http://www.ls35a.com/

Among so many LS3/5a, I still like the Harbeth early model very much. I know the KEF LS3/5a by Joseph Ki has wonderful sound and do hope the Ho's can live up with its own. There are not many LS 3/5a on sale nowadays.

tubejunkie wrote:Anyway, they r juz copy cat. vocal n high can be close but yet is juz not there. In term of build quality..hmm..still way to go compare wth the original LS3/5A. Well, time will tell the truth. Lets c what will happened after 10 years. Original Ls3/5A, wth reasonably play and care, the driver will easily last more than 20+ yrs. Its proven.. pls check wth local collectors.

1/5 of original Rogers price & sounds very close

no complain

azri wrote:hi guys, what so famous about LS3/5A? sorry, ive heard of it
but never get to know better & why was it consider legendary

realistic vocals

so others like not even close?

nothing can beat LS3/5A in vocals

pakleng wrote:nothing can beat LS3/5A in vocals

Think Harbeth HL P3

u believe them UKs?
even among them they fight hehe

Has anyone heard Audio Synthesis LS3/5a at Amcorp Mall? Was strolling by a few days ago and Simon introduced it to me. I listened for about ten minutes at low level driven by a chinese tube amp and it sounded satisfactory. Is it anything close to the original or at least Ho`s ?

Ho's is very close to the original Rogers

ongaaron wrote:Has anyone heard Audio Synthesis LS3/5a at Amcorp Mall? Was strolling by a few days ago and Simon introduced it to me. I listened for about ten minutes at low level driven by a chinese tube amp and it sounded satisfactory. Is it anything close to the original or at least Ho`s ?

ya, i have seen it 2 wks ago. i noticed from front view of the speaker..the tickness of the box is slightly ticker than original Ls3/5a n Ho's one. Probably 2 to 3 mm more.

tycham wrote:

pakleng wrote:nothing can beat LS3/5A in vocals

Think Harbeth HL P3

I owned a pair of 95' 11ohm Rogers Ls3/5A but i hv not heard HL P3 yet. How is it sounded overall ? I used to owned Pro Ac Tablette 50..after hearing LS3/5A i sold it immediately.. I juz fall in love wth their vocal . Besides, Tablette 50 offers very good mid n low bass, wonderful soundstage and the dynamicability of this baby is real good. I wish there is a speaker with the combination of LS's vocal emotion and Tablette 50's dynamic staging ? ( ofcoz wth the similar price range given la.. ) so, is there any speakers around have the ' best of both worlds ' like above .. any ? thx..

oh i almost forgot.. by the way..the another ' best of the three world' is MUST be easily driven especially by those 300B low power SE tube amp.

tubejunkie wrote:

tycham wrote:

pakleng wrote:nothing can beat LS3/5A in vocals

Think Harbeth HL P3

I owned a pair of 95' 11ohm Rogers Ls3/5A but i hv not heard HL P3 yet. How is it sounded overall ? I used to owned Pro Ac Tablette 50..after hearing LS3/5A i sold it immediately.. I juz fall in love wth their vocal . Besides, Tablette 50 offers very good mid n low bass, wonderful soundstage and the dynamicability of this baby is real good. I wish there is a speaker with the combination of LS's vocal emotion and Tablette 50's dynamic staging ? ( ofcoz wth the similar price range given la.. ) so, is there any speakers around have the ' best of both worlds ' like above .. any ? thx..

good speaker placement of the LS3/5A and add a subwoofer

passive or active subs?

M7 wrote:

tubejunkie wrote:

tycham wrote:

pakleng wrote:nothing can beat LS3/5A in vocals

Think Harbeth HL P3

I owned a pair of 95' 11ohm Rogers Ls3/5A but i hv not heard HL P3 yet. How is it sounded overall ? I used to owned Pro Ac Tablette 50..after hearing LS3/5A i sold it immediately.. I juz fall in love wth their vocal . Besides, Tablette 50 offers very good mid n low bass, wonderful soundstage and the dynamicability of this baby is real good. I wish there is a speaker with the combination of LS's vocal emotion and Tablette 50's dynamic staging ? ( ofcoz wth the similar price range given la.. ) so, is there any speakers around have the ' best of both worlds ' like above .. any ? thx..

good speaker placement of the LS3/5A and add a subwoofer

do you mean AB1 ?

Ho's LS3/5A got their own matching sub/stand..see the link below

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://ginidirect.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/HOs/BassStand_220x440.gif&imgrefurl=http://ginidirect.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc%3FScreen%3DCTGY%26Store_Code%3DGD%26Category_Code%3DLG&usg=__t1fOMk3ddO_1P8AWKr3joxf-yM0=&h=440&w=220&sz=57&hl=en&start=5&sig2=uizxJPk3hMyUQgs0Xo4twg&um=1&tbnid=ebbA_08VvshJlM:&tbnh=127&tbnw=64&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dho%2527s%2Bls35a%2Bstand%26hl%3Den%26rls%3Dgm%26sourceid%3Dgmail%26um%3D1&ei=WkB-Su_jIMqHkAWTicXmAg

Got a chance to hear the sound during av show at Jas Audio showroom..

azri wrote:passive or active subs?

bro.. what is the different btw passive or active ?

I have seen the Original Roger Ls3/5a at woo kee hong showroom the price tag is Rm16,800

fizi wrote:I have seen the Original Roger Ls3/5a at woo kee hong showroom the price tag is Rm16,800

With this kind of price tag. i can actually fly to u.k and buy 1 there ( i think u can get a used pair for less than 1000 pounds ) . I personally think that somehow they are over ' goreng the price '.

Last year I remember, the LS3/5A club had a room at the KLAV show. I thought their sound was one of the better sounds from the show.

For a similar sound to the L3/5A but with more bass, etc, I felt Spendor gives a good deal. I used Spendor SP2/2 for many years and it was one of my favourite speakers. I would have upgraded to Spendor SP1 if it were available at that time. Actually I believe there are both used Rogers LS3/5A and Spendor SP2/2 for sale right now in the for-sale forum.

tubejunky, ur kidding rite?
anyway what is the best match amp for these pairs?

azri wrote:tubejunky, ur kidding rite?
anyway what is the best match amp for these pairs?

British dun really fancy this speaker. Is the Honkie n b.b.chinese in u.k. Once told by a hifi shop owner in London, most buyers are chinese. Was price 800 pounds for new back in 1996. i dun know what's is the best match. I matched wth AN 300B SE power. Some says Quad is the best. But haven't heard it yet. By the way, any LS3/5a owners here mind to share ? What's is the optimum match. Coz my amp only produce 8 watts per channel. thx..

8 watts is too low to properly drive an LS3/5A . Its not an easy speaker to drive coz of the low sensitivity.

maybe u meant 80 watts ?

mugenfoo wrote:8 watts is too low to properly drive an LS3/5A . Its not an easy speaker to drive coz of the low sensitivity.

maybe u meant 80 watts ?

no bro. is true. is only 8 watts. can only play simple music.

8 watts is too low to even properly drive a decent pair of bookshelf speakers lah.

What amp is that ?

i guess tube junkie are those like really old timer
they only use less 10 watter valve sound stage
respect you for that becoz i know i wont have that patience to tolerate such low output
i read those quad 303 is an all time favourite.. happy haunting

tubejunkie wrote:

M7 wrote:

tubejunkie wrote:

tycham wrote:

pakleng wrote:nothing can beat LS3/5A in vocals

Think Harbeth HL P3

I owned a pair of 95' 11ohm Rogers Ls3/5A but i hv not heard HL P3 yet. How is it sounded overall ? I used to owned Pro Ac Tablette 50..after hearing LS3/5A i sold it immediately.. I juz fall in love wth their vocal . Besides, Tablette 50 offers very good mid n low bass, wonderful soundstage and the dynamicability of this baby is real good. I wish there is a speaker with the combination of LS's vocal emotion and Tablette 50's dynamic staging ? ( ofcoz wth the similar price range given la.. ) so, is there any speakers around have the ' best of both worlds ' like above .. any ? thx..

good speaker placement of the LS3/5A and add a subwoofer

do you mean AB1 ?

AB1 or REL Strata I/II

mugenfoo wrote:8 watts is too low to even properly drive a decent pair of bookshelf speakers lah.

What amp is that ?

audio note conqueror 300B S.E power amp

M7 wrote:

tubejunkie wrote:

M7 wrote:

tubejunkie wrote:

tycham wrote:

pakleng wrote:nothing can beat LS3/5A in vocals

Think Harbeth HL P3

I owned a pair of 95' 11ohm Rogers Ls3/5A but i hv not heard HL P3 yet. How is it sounded overall ? I used to owned Pro Ac Tablette 50..after hearing LS3/5A i sold it immediately.. I juz fall in love wth their vocal . Besides, Tablette 50 offers very good mid n low bass, wonderful soundstage and the dynamicability of this baby is real good. I wish there is a speaker with the combination of LS's vocal emotion and Tablette 50's dynamic staging ? ( ofcoz wth the similar price range given la.. ) so, is there any speakers around have the ' best of both worlds ' like above .. any ? thx..

good speaker placement of the LS3/5A and add a subwoofer

do you mean AB1 ?

AB1 or REL Strata I/II

where can i hear this subs ?

tube junkie,,maybe this link can help--june 21st RAVE AUDIO
i dont know the ho's still avaiiable o not

http://desirableaudio.blogspot.com/2009_06_01_archive.html

g luck

If you guys are looking to buy a Ho's, Audio Image in SS2 has a pair of used Ho's for sale.

tubejunkie wrote:

mugenfoo wrote:8 watts is too low to even properly drive a decent pair of bookshelf speakers lah.

What amp is that ?

audio note conqueror 300B S.E power amp

Ouch ! Thats why the Japs like to use Horn speakers coz of the efficiencies.
Imagine a hi-fi version of a Loud Hailer ! hahahahahahaha!

If put a pair of Magneplanars of Apogees to an Audio Note amp .... Mega Ouch!


Errr.. but if u ever do try that AN 8 watter with a LS3/5a ... do tell ! I'm darn curious how it will sound (at decent listening levels ya, not at lovers' whispering level) ...

WongKN wrote:If you guys are looking to buy a Ho's, Audio Image in SS2 has a pair of used Ho's for sale.

Correction .. its "NEAR" to SS2 but not SS2. Section 19 actually. Around the vicinity of the Rothmans Roundabout.

mugenfoo wrote:

tubejunkie wrote:

mugenfoo wrote:8 watts is too low to even properly drive a decent pair of bookshelf speakers lah.

What amp is that ?

audio note conqueror 300B S.E power amp

Ouch ! Thats why the Japs like to use Horn speakers coz of the efficiencies.
Imagine a hi-fi version of a Loud Hailer ! hahahahahahaha!

If put a pair of Magneplanars of Apogees to an Audio Note amp .... Mega Ouch!


Errr.. but if u ever do try that AN 8 watter with a LS3/5a ... do tell ! I'm darn curious how it will sound (at decent listening levels ya, not at lovers' whispering level) ...

I have heard the 15ohm LS3/5A driven by a 40 year old 9 watter Sugden A21A

fabulous sound!

can play loud, but not too loud

very musical, especially the vocals, can get bass slam too

never felt underpowered

I think if the matching is right, should be OK

A group of hifi kaki of mine have also tried 20 watter Musical Fidelity A1 on the LS3/5A

little bit underpowered, but still sounds very good

not whispering level but normal listening level is OK