Vinyl or CD

tmahmood wrote:Jedi,
Saw a used copy of Gary Moore Live at Centre Circle this pm. Didn't have time to go through their collection of new and used but did come away with new reissues of Bad Company's self titled first album and a 180gm Hotel California LP.

ada nampak album 'still got the blues' ke

No 'Still got the Blues' lah Fizi but saw a copy kat one shop selling used LPs at The Adelphi in Singapore a few months back. It's being offered at sgd260...

...I also saw that at the Adelphi, was a Mobile Fidelity pressing... price was SGD70... I bought a pile of Led Zep instead....

T'mood - wooowwww what a price tag 4 it...

Jedi - sure good sound from mobile fidelity

Guys,,let me know is u all seen Mark Knopler - Shangri La album
its cool to

Fizi, saw Shangri-La at Rock Corner Midvalley a few months back. Dono if still there.
Jedi, the Gary Moore I saw at The Adelphi was an original UK pressing. Guess that explains the difference with the mofi copy.

Yes, but the price as set for the UK pressing better be for one sealed and autographed!!

tmahmood wrote:Fizi, saw Shangri-La at Rock Corner Midvalley a few months back. Dono if still there.
Jedi, the Gary Moore I saw at The Adelphi was an original UK pressing. Guess that explains the difference with the mofi copy.

cd o vinyl

Jedi, my exact thots too. It's the same shop thats offering Search's Mentari Di Ufuk Timur for around 200sgd.
Fizi, vinyl Bang.

be it CD or Vinyl..both has their own strength.
for old folks and experienced masters nothing wrong to go for vinyl.

But new joined/comer, it will put a cursed on them,..they have no idea to make it run well[Skills required],one sifu told me a 'proper" turntable setup is at least cost $8000 and beyond,if we do have the $$ to spend.,,its like kid play pasir,sia sia!So its better play CDs to cut long nightmare short.
ofcourse those who broke the vinyl barrier already at hifi nirvana!

I like to think that I'm inexperience & young . And it just so happens that I enjoy listening to 'black plastic'. My record 'skills' are, that am fairly good at taking it out & plopping it onto the 'spinning thing' and I don't know how to setup a TT properly. I send it to a trusted dealer for that. The last time, he changed my cart & 'tune' it and the charge was a princely sum of RM350. Oh yea, the TT was a 'proper' Planar 2.
Nirvana is all in the mind, at very much less than $8k, got me everything I needed. For all that change, I brought more music.

cyh wrote: For all that change, I brought more music.

You're not wrong by buying more music, afterall better being a musicphile than audiophile.

A musicphile likely sleeps better at nite than some audiophiles!

hi5papa wrote:be it CD or Vinyl..both has their own strength.
for old folks and experienced masters nothing wrong to go for vinyl.

But new joined/comer, it will put a cursed on them,..they have no idea to make it run well[Skills required],one sifu told me a 'proper" turntable setup is at least cost $8000 and beyond,if we do have the $$ to spend.,,its like kid play pasir,sia sia!So its better play CDs to cut long nightmare short.
ofcourse those who broke the vinyl barrier already at hifi nirvana!

Any sifu claiming that to get a good TT (or any other gear for that matter) NEEDS to be AT LEAST A CERTAIN PRICE is no sifu to me. Thats giving a very wrong and misleading impression of the hobby. I have never heard reknown international hifi experts claiming that you need to have minimum 8000 dollars to get good sound.
Sorry for being straight forward but there are people who are very happy with a cheaper set up.

I am with you elhefe. What kind of a 'sifu' is that? Si-Fool maybe.

Any sifu claiming that to get a good TT (or any other gear for that
matter) NEEDS to be AT LEAST A CERTAIN PRICE is no sifu to me. Thats
giving a very wrong and misleading impression of the hobby. I have never
heard reknown international hifi experts claiming that you need to have
minimum 8000 dollars to get good sound.
Sorry for being straight forward but there are people who are very happy with a cheaper set up.

Comments like $8k to get a proper TT setup puts me off. Wonder who is that 'sifu'??

Lets do a quick calculation, to start of on playing a decent respectable TT system:

Basic deck: RM1.2~1.5K
Cartridge: RM200
Decent Phono Amp (no Nad PP miniboxes please) : Rm 700~1K (Maybe a Clearaudio Nano-Phono or a ProJect Phonobox-SE).
Stylus brush: RM70
Record Brush: RM50

Total TT front end = approx RM 2.5~3K

Hmmmm... no where near that RM8K figure! (unless the remaining 5K is spent buying records lah! Which is fine by me....)

Anyone who says you NEED to spend big bucks for good sound is a sad sack of shit with self esteem issues.

Transmission ends.

New transmission:

...or they just could be an elitist pig....

Aiyoh, dont go hamtam hi5papa like that la. In some cases, it seem true on the 8k figure... Guess some of u here have something like this, and you can't survive with anything lower than this ya

Guess, I am the only one that close to mugen description of a TT setup.. oh, mine is even cheaper, I think not more than 1.5k for the whole things, and it is soundly beaten by mine CD setup.

The problem here is the hifi sifu might have a very gifted digital front end that truly good to take on a RM8k TT setup~..

Well, for majority of guys; we do love to have certain figure in our hifi.. how much, how big, how good, 1000W, 1000RMS, 1million dollar system, 10k cartridge. some potent figures. so 8k sound like 8 inches. and This is potent man!

I dont think we are hantam-ing hi5papa. We are hantam-ing the sifu hehehhe.

Its not also about 8K figure. Its abouta sifu portraying that one can only enjoy this hobby if they meet certain price range.

My current set up is the most unbalanced set up I think... My amp and speakers are in the range of RM10 to 15K but my sources are all below RM 5K. But still very happy with it.

At the same time, my previous set up was all below RM2.5K for each component....but was very happy to use it for nearly 11 years.

And throughout that 11 years, I have listened to set ups that are 10 time more expensive than mine but I still find happiness with my set up.

There you go....RM700 TT

http://lpturntables.blogspot.com/2010/07/tan-middle-and-lim-right-showing-off.html

elhefe wrote:I dont think we are hantam-ing hi5papa. We are hantam-ing the sifu hehehhe.

Its not also about 8K figure. Its about a sifu portraying that one can only enjoy this hobby if they meet certain price range.

You are right. Don't shoot the messenger...he was just relaying what others said and may not necessarily agree with his friend's statement.