Music Lover vs Hi-Fi Enthusiast

Do you buy Hi Fi because you listen to a lot of music esp of a particular genre say jazz or classical and collect hundreds of cds and lps and still do. Or are you a gadget freak and take a deep interest in the art and science of music playback at home. Does your music collection worth more than your rig by now? Can at least you differentiate a minor and a major chord in your music or at least sing in the right key and can hold a right note in your vocal chord?

I've friend who've just upgraded his complete system to something worth nearly 80k. Thing is he's aways been into equipment and changing cables, power supplies and constantly upgrading and listen to the same tracks on certain cds all the time when I'm over at his house and talk about this and that re equipment never the music, singer or musician. And has up to date only a handful of cds and sacds of mixed genre and all commercial stuff at that. Been to a karaoke with him once with a group of friends and the guy can't hit the right note on the first verse. The rest of his singing wouldn't envy a frog.

Ok you don't have to be a musician like me to enjoy and understand what you're listening to. I listen at least 1 to 2 hrs almost every night sometimes whilst working on my computer through my bedroom system- Linn Sondek Valhalla from my student days, Acurius phono amp, A Rotel 970 cd player, Jadis Defy 30 amp and a pair of Proac Tablette IIs. All antiquated by today's standards but excellent by my own reckoning and I enjoy my music tremendously as they faithfully reproduce vocals and instruments and recording techniques.

So are you stuck with the means and never really understood the ends?

Good topic. I have just discussed the same with one of my friends just recently. Apparently there is no consensus on whether one is more towards a music lover or an audio enthusiast. I would say audio enthusiasts are curious creatures. Even though one may be contented with his system and enjoying the sound very much today, he may feel something is missing with the system tomorrow and start looking around. Curiosity and the urge to try something new in an attempt to improve the system will beckon. The variety of gears out there doesn't help much either. I believe this is inevitable with most if not all audio enthusiasts. I have specifically told myself everytime I bought something new that this would be the last piece of equipment I am getting, no more upgrading, settled, done. Unfortunately that was 6 years ago, and I had made upgrades at least once in every year. I am still hoping hard that I would quit soon.... I really hope.

Most of my friends are still buying stuff quite frequently, and I have one friend who is buying components like changing clothes, mostly mid to high-end gears. I guess it all boils down to individual priorities. I believe audio enthusiasts are music lovers too. If not they won't go all the way out in swapping speakers and components frequently. Of course they would need to be financially capable to do so too. Having said that I suppose minority *may* fall in the "equipment lovers" category that solely buy gears to please themselves rather than searching for the holy grail.

You are truly blessed to still own your bedroom system from your student days. I believe not many folks have managed to stick with their gears from the student days. My CD player and amps from my student days only lasted no more than 3 years. My speakers are more fortunate to have lasted for 10 years.

Cheers.

Wan Azami Hamzah wrote:Do you buy Hi Fi because you listen to a lot of music esp of a particular genre say jazz or classical and collect hundreds of cds and lps and still do.
So are you stuck with the means and never really understood the ends?

Hi @wan Haven't seen u around lately ! Glad to have u back ....

As to music lover vs. techno geek ..... some are perhaps abit of both ... i would like to consider myself and some fellow hifi friends here also as such.

I know this one guy , he's got like 2000+ LPs ... but equally obsessed with getting his stylus tracking force accurate right up to the 0.00X-gram precision so he went and got one of those digital gauges (that could also be used to measure & pack cocaine/heroine sachets in grams and sell them on the streets).

actually adding on .. one could also view the "softwares" as just the means. The ends could very well be pride of ownership of finely crafted audio equipment. And is this wrong ?


If i could have it my way, i'd really love to dig a pit in my driveway, and install a Dynojet series-248 Dynamometer with 4WD attachment and wideband sensor package. Not that I'm going into the performance tuning business or such... but the pride of having one such tool.... [drool drool]

Then again , for the same amount of moolah, this could buy 3 or 4 pairs of Magico V2 speakers with leftover change .....


Hey ... whatever makes u happy dude.

Hello Mugen,

Been sooo busy with work recently lah, datelines and outstation a lot too.

Sure like being overtaken by an older aircooled 911 Carrera going past at 280km/hr when you're driving a spanking new 911 Turbo. Some people buy fast exotic cars but don't have the nerve to take it to the limit but buy them to be seen in. YES I do agree with you in that sense. Pride of ownership.

Whatever makes you happy too hehe....I love to tickle. This is one fine blog.
How's the Sondek?

Cheers mate.

I would think the software should be the end. Not the hardwares.

Saying that, we also need to have a decent system to be able to reproduce the sound in its best form if possible. The best way to compare is the movie lover. there are lots of hardware freaks around who can afford a complete 7.1 AV system, but using it to watch loud Transformer in its best form. While it is nothing wrong with that, afterall even sci fi is also an artform, most really good movies comes without the best available recording facilities around.

Movie lovers just love it even without the best systems. But he will be found sitting right in the centre of the theater, free from all the hassle of companions, and enjoy the imageries, sounds, soundtracks, pictorial composition of the big screen just like reading the photo album of any legendary photographer. Even though the movie could well only be in black & white.

More to the point.

Music is not just something nice to listen to. Music is made up by a group of musicians/and singer/s depending on it's concept using instruments and vocal chords to put it together. There are differing playing styles even with different musician, and different brands and types of the same instruments used. And it's not too difficult to understand this if you really appreciate music.

So, even if you have the latest state of art hi fi set but cannot differentiate between an upright fretless bass from a solid body jazz bass when you'd be enjoying their best reproduction at home you're missing the very fruit and raison d' entre of hi fidelity.

The quest for the best sound at home is even more satisfying with each small or big upgrade if you understand better if the upgrade is accurate in musical terms or just a different sound.

Think that's what hi fi is meant for, to me anyway.

that Sondek is still in storage ... my friend hasn't brought it over for a makeover still.

Could this be the musicphile we envisage..........or we aspire to be?!
How is this for starter..................................................
10,000 vinyl lps and 30,000 CDs excluding 1,000 boxsets!!!!!


http://klaudiodoctor.blogspot.com/2009/10/rocky-from-wangsa-maju.html

Uncle Vic,

Phooah! Amazing collection. Let me guess your age. You must be 70 at the most beyond which you'd develop hearing problems slowly and wouldn't be into Hi Fi anymore. Say you started collecting Lps from age 20 that'll mean you buy at the rate of 17 albums a month. CD started in the mid eighties so in 25 years you've collected them at a rate of 100 albums a month on average, or between 3 to 4 cds everyday....... Blimey.

Hehe i hope you're kidding, cheers.

uncle_vic wrote:Could this be the musicphile we envisage..........or we aspire to be?!
How is this for starter..................................................
10,000 vinyl lps and 30,000 CDs excluding 1,000 boxsets!!!!!


http://klaudiodoctor.blogspot.com/2009/10/rocky-from-wangsa-maju.html

Library ka???

I'll be 56 this nov! that's my friend's setup and his enormous collection!!!

I'm what mugen foo would describe as half musicphile and half audiophile I listen to music and also the sound of the hifi system!

Come to think of it, it's an interesting pastime to just collect music!
If one has the resources and time and patient for it.

Anyway, there are a few more collections much much bigger than this one!!!!

Holy Macaroni! There's an even bigger collection elsewhere?

If it's collecting music then I believe you. Like collecting stamps or coins. You don't have to listen to these things over and over. They're just for looking at.

Wan Azami Hamzah wrote:Holy Macaroni! There's an even bigger collection elsewhere?

If it's collecting music then I believe you. Like collecting stamps or coins. You don't have to listen to these things over and over. They're just for looking at.

Before you drop off your chair, check this Chinaman out;

http://www.avguide.com/blog/the-worlds-number-one-audiophile

Please hold on to your chair tightly! Dont blame me if you fall off the chair.

Cheers.

Read that few months ago, ya, this China rich man is really something, feel really tiny of myself. How great to be that rich.

Very intersting Topic by Wan Azami........Music and Hi Fi ?
We can define Music as from the starting point of Jamming (Practising) to the Recording Studio, the End product being a Recorded " Album " they call it last time. Now, everything is in Digital form ofcourse.I am a Musician myself, Drummer and Keyboardist (Just for weekend family gathering actually)
As every Audiophile or Hi Fi enthusiast know, the term HI-FI means
High Fidelity.....That same concept is also applicable to Amplifier Performance - " Garbage in, Garbage out " .....If we play A POORLY Recorded Album or cd, what comes out through the Amplifier / Speaker is also poor Sound......but If we play a FINE Recording, doesn;t matter Jazz, Country or Disco, we are sure to enjoy the Sound even if we are only using an ENTRY LEVEL Amp or Speakers.....shall we say, Music Industry and HI-FI Listening ? its a very wide Topic ! Thank for reading....

soonthas wrote:Read that few months ago, ya, this China rich man is really something, feel really tiny of myself. How great to be that rich.

antak...the sansui's man..glad 2 see u recently.. , nice man from kuching...

kancan wrote:antak...the sansui's man..glad 2 see u recently.. , nice man from kuching...

Thanks Kancan ! Hows your Rotel Pre / Power Combi ? Guess you are Bridging it to Mono Block now since you already have another similar Rotel Power Amp ?
Tanks for reading !

kancan wrote:antak...the sansui's man..glad 2 see u recently.. , nice man from kuching...

Thanks Kancan, I have been in constant contact with JG (Penang), He is going
back to Vinyl !!! (He said)
How is your Rotel Pre / power Combi ? Are you Bridging it into monoblock
configuration since you already have an Identical Power Amp ?
Thanks for reading.....

hi Antak, all of hifi' kaki should respect this men , old timer, if u want to ask about vintage's stuff, ask this men, hahahaha.... im still usings it for my main setup..monoblok rotel is amazing, tonal balance incredible, u can hear separately in suprise....anyway thank a lot bro Antak..

Glad to hear that !!! Actually, I have been tempted to go to Pre /
Power Combi in the past few months but with so many Fabulous
Integrated Amps around......my plans has temporary been put off....
But not for long, I think.......err...Will move to Pre / Power combi maybe say......around this coming January.........

Thanks,

antaklugom wrote:Glad to hear that !!! Actually, I have been tempted to go to Pre /
Power Combi in the past few months but with so many Fabulous
Integrated Amps around......my plans has temporary been put off....
But not for long, I think.......err...Will move to Pre / Power combi maybe say......around this coming January.........

Thanks,

If u get something like a Krell FBI (hello Clarice.... ), there won't be many pre/power combos that can even come close to this.

But of course, if u should for a a Pre/Power Soulution combo ... then its another story altogether.


In the end, its all relative.

antaklugom wrote:

kancan wrote:antak...the sansui's man..glad 2 see u recently.. , nice man from kuching...

Thanks Kancan, I have been in constant contact with JG (Penang), He is going
back to Vinyl !!!

Cool.. what TT's are u guys using ?

Mugen,
Still crazy about TTs aye?
Get the Linn Sondek. You'll be satisfied for a long long time time.
Cheers.

Wan Azami Hamzah wrote:Mugen,
Still crazy about TTs aye?
Get the Linn Sondek. You'll be satisfied for a long long time time.
Cheers.

no need ler.... maybe a simple Rega P3 with one of the better cartridges for me would suffice.

Actually, mebbe a Tek-SL12 might be a more iconic piece of TT to have , at least for me. Its pretty much bullet-proof and definitely has that "street tough" appeal. LP12 seems abit too "pussified" with all that bouncy springs and wooden box. IMO of course.

Hi, sorry 2 be bringing this topic back from the dead. I'm a fairly new into this audiophile thingy dating back maybe 2 years. This topic really piqued my interest as I was asking myself this question about 6 months back. My first set up was donated to me by my uncle back in my studying days, consisting of an Audiolab 8000s, MA Bronze bookshelfs and a really really old NAD CDP. I really took alot of interest in Hifi because of this setup and pretty soon I was spending 5 days a week after work hours in Hifi shops poisoning myself day after day.I retired my first setup and got meself and midrange Primare - ATC setup that lasted no more than half a year.After getting my house, I started getting way too serious about hifi.

I turned one room in my condo into my music room and after auditioning close to 500 components, I got myself what I would call a pretty high end setup - focal utopia diablos, Plinius 9200 amp and Marantz Sa11-s2 CDP. For months, I was ecstatic, this was my move into the high end and music has never been more clinical and impressive - precision, timing, ultimate detail. I started to listen to complex music, orchestra works (which I have never been a fan of and marvelled at what the system could do).

I travel to Hanoi pretty often for work and Hifi is taken way too seriously over there as well. I got into contact with Hanoi High End club and was making visits to homes of members with their megabucks setups, and then i noticed something - while i was away from my own system, and no doubt these setups were amazing, but are they musically good or am I marvelled merely at the names and the way the music is presented? I'm farely young and have never heard of some artistes back in the days. So when my girlfriend bought me a quite a number of XRCDs and SACDs of Teresa Teng and Aaron Neville, I got abit obsessed and would just listen to Teresa for hours and days at a time in a makeshift setup in my Hanoi apartment *Yamaha S2000 amp & cdp + Odeon orfeo speakers QED interconnects*.

the make shift setup is nowhere near the cost of my main setup and yet when I want to listen to music and not detail, soundstage or system razzmatazz, Im always headed towards my alternate setup now that I've moved it back home with me.

These days, I'm done with trying to extract that extra little amount of detail, precision and sound stage from my setups and just focus my time entirely on listening to music. I'm pretty much done with upgrades, component swapping and the likes and am pretty much confident it'll stay that way. I still am a frequent visitor to hifi dealers and shops, but merely to just keep myself updated - well at least until my system craps on me. Unfortunately, I'm now waist deep in AV poison!

That's my little story and boy and am I glad in my journey towards being a maniacal hifi enthusiast, I've discovered the pleasure of music in the first place. With regards to the topic, I'm in the first category now and boy am I happy to be there.

quite an interesting story/experience.....You can also try Agnes Chan CD ....singer of the 70's. Talking about Classical Orchestra CD, I particularly
likes Mozart's. Yes, aside from the High end where you can hear precision and
pin point accurary, a decent mid system or Entry level will also let the sweet
and electrifying Music flows through them.......Disco's and Techno's Music will be best heard through these system as you dont need detail to hear these sort of Music. ( I like powerful clean Bass)
Of course it would be more enjoyable to listen to Norah Jones singing her
voice out through a High End set up.....Did you know that there is a Vintage
Gears " Following " (sort of web Club) in Vietnam ?

Rector wrote:Hi, sorry 2 be bringing this topic back from the dead. I'm a fairly new into this audiophile thingy dating back maybe 2 years. This topic really piqued my interest as I was asking myself this question about 6 months back. My first set up was donated to me by my uncle back in my studying days, consisting of an Audiolab 8000s, MA Bronze bookshelfs and a really really old NAD CDP. I really took alot of interest in Hifi because of this setup and pretty soon I was spending 5 days a week after work hours in Hifi shops poisoning myself day after day.I retired my first setup and got meself and midrange Primare - ATC setup that lasted no more than half a year.After getting my house, I started getting way too serious about hifi.

I turned one room in my condo into my music room and after auditioning close to 500 components, I got myself what I would call a pretty high end setup - focal utopia diablos, Plinius 9200 amp and Marantz Sa11-s2 CDP. For months, I was ecstatic, this was my move into the high end and music has never been more clinical and impressive - precision, timing, ultimate detail. I started to listen to complex music, orchestra works (which I have never been a fan of and marvelled at what the system could do).

I travel to Hanoi pretty often for work and Hifi is taken way too seriously over there as well. I got into contact with Hanoi High End club and was making visits to homes of members with their megabucks setups, and then i noticed something - while i was away from my own system, and no doubt these setups were amazing, but are they musically good or am I marvelled merely at the names and the way the music is presented? I'm farely young and have never heard of some artistes back in the days. So when my girlfriend bought me a quite a number of XRCDs and SACDs of Teresa Teng and Aaron Neville, I got abit obsessed and would just listen to Teresa for hours and days at a time in a makeshift setup in my Hanoi apartment *Yamaha S2000 amp & cdp + Odeon orfeo speakers QED interconnects*.

the make shift setup is nowhere near the cost of my main setup and yet when I want to listen to music and not detail, soundstage or system razzmatazz, Im always headed towards my alternate setup now that I've moved it back home with me.

These days, I'm done with trying to extract that extra little amount of detail, precision and sound stage from my setups and just focus my time entirely on listening to music. I'm pretty much done with upgrades, component swapping and the likes and am pretty much confident it'll stay that way. I still am a frequent visitor to hifi dealers and shops, but merely to just keep myself updated - well at least until my system craps on me. Unfortunately, I'm now waist deep in AV poison!

That's my little story and boy and am I glad in my journey towards being a maniacal hifi enthusiast, I've discovered the pleasure of music in the first place. With regards to the topic, I'm in the first category now and boy am I happy to be there.

I for one doesn;t know much about audiophile. Still very new in this
arena, but I notice that compared to the normal speakers vs audiophile
speakers, there are times that normal speakers sound better than the
audiophile speakers due to the normal speakers not able to produce some
sound (a great example is low bit mp3). Then if you compare a good SACD
or CD with both normal speakers and audiophile rated speakers, usually
audiophile speakers will produce a more accurate sound (of course lar)
but it will sometime take away all the fun in the music. No matter what
the setup is, both Music lovers and Hifi Enthusiast listen to music,
it's how they enjoy their music that's matter to them. What ever floats
your boat is the on that counts

antaklugom, seriously, in Hanoi and HCMC, there are at least a few hundred audiophile clubs. I mean they have everything. Even following for those ancient turntables dating back to the 50's and 60's. It's a massive hobby there apart from gambling. haha.But i disagree with one thing though, with the techno music comment. I actually prefer to listen to trance and dance music on my main setup. Not only is it beefier, but on complex pieces, especially those with multi layered basslines, the setup with better precision and clarity defnitely sounds better.

rune, depends on what you categorize as audiophile speakers. For one I think most hifi speakers are already categorized as audiophile speakers.Those poorly designed and copy cats definitely are lacking in terms of sound staging and utmost clarity. Modern day speakers are all pretty much equal in conveying the details. I think the sound production depends entirely on a quality source and amplification.

But to be honest, the Odeon Orfeo, you guys have to check it out. It really does perform at a level out of this world. IMO, they perform much better than some speakers costing twice their price. I too had my doubts until I heard them. For one, Im not a fan of horn loaded tweeters, but this baby is awesome. No treble brightness or the small soundstage that is often associated with horn speakers. Not sure where you can audition them in Malaysia, but in Vietnam, these speakers are a revelation.


But of course I agree that at the end of the day, its about enjoying the music.For hifi equipment, I think there's this grey area that that can't be explained by graphs or scientific calculations and most reviewers just tend to name it as 'musicality' and I for one am a firm believer in that when choosing equipment irregardless of price. I've heard cheap stuff sound good, and expensive stuff sound like turd.

Rector, Yes, I even came across their Forum on Vintage Sansui but needs the
google engine to translate.......and Lo.....there comes the Translation although
in quite a broken English but ofcourse Understandable......Good enough though..
Yes, what you say about Amplification and overall set up is also
most important, The SOURCE, ie Recorded material, CDs, Vinyl LPs or even Cassette Tapes.....Poorly Recorded Material will surely produce poor Music......
Lets remember that almost all CD's are Remastered from Original Vinyl LP's and
even their Original Reel to Reel open Tape.
And I still remember what " STAR " magazine Hi Fi " Reviewer " Mr Sujest Pavithran said in his Article, Amp will do " Garbage in, Garbage out ".
What it means is just like my explanation above.
An entry level system will play sweet music if it comes from a very
good Recorded Source while an Expensive set up will play " Garbage " if a poor Recorded source is played through it.
If you are still in Vietnam, please do ask your Hi Fi friends there
whether anybody there has the Sansui BA-5000 Power Amp for Sale. I am interested. I saw one in Singapore but the overall condition is NOT so MINT.
I will only collect a " NEAR MINT " or even better, a MINT CONDITION
one. Voltage is not a problem as most Sansui Vintage Amps are Multivoltage
where we can adjust to our country Specs by openeing a Small cover at the
rear Panel.

am not really a music lover, or even a hi fi enthusiast
its just an experimentation between music, sound & hearing
hopefully one day it will all go away

Interesting and RELEVANT topic this!

Not trying to touch anyone's nerves, but honestly and it is TRUE, if you don't understand music and appreciate it then why bother with hi fi at all. You are just listening to sound. There must be more bass there lah must be more treble here lah.... midrange not clear so on ....
If you don't neither then worse, yet BUY HI FI THEN SOMETHING IS AWFULLY WRONG WITH YOU.

BTW Agnes Chan wasn't a world class singer and bad taste in my opinion, never mind the potentially poor local recording and production. Yeah . That's what I mean.

Antak, I'll be leaving to Hanoi in a couple of days or maybe in a week or so. I'll be sure to keep an eye open for the amp you mentioned. Though I have no idea about Sansui amps whatsoever. Will try to find one thats working fine and aesthetically still looks mint. No guarantees but fingers crossed, I will find one to your liking.

cooltube, nevermind......its ok what azri " says " all his " thoughts " about music........sometime it is true. At certain time, you are so interested in that Hobby to the Point of spending Thousands and thousands of Ringgit......but after that, your interest began to fade......And all those expensive Gadgets are left to accumulate dust !!! only to start another Hobby of different kind.......
Take for examples, Fishing (Anglers)- (sorry to divert a bit....) some of
my friends spends thousands of Ringgit to buy Carbon Fibre Rods and Reels but only go to deep sea once a while.............
Oh ya......Agnes Chan is a Hong kong singer, not Malaysian but anyway,
her song lyrics are ok........
rector, thanks for your effort and do keep members here informed about
what's up in the Hanoi Hi Fi scenes........

Agnes Chan fr Hong Kong and .....good lyrics!!? Well ok, is she latest jazz singer or something? Someone gave me the Japanese jazz singer Kiko Lee CD. Funny voice and horrible English pronounciation. Oh well.

I was just giving an examples of singers from the 70's (since the Topic about those Asian singers was started by other Forummers) . Not that I say Agnes Chan is the best or latest Hits around.......I also listen to modern Hits singers like Eminem or Alicia Keys........One man prefence might be another man's dislike...
Nowadays, we often notice Teenagers prefer to watch Japanese cartoon
and also listen to Thai's song.........for you and me, maybe we are not into
that.........Its up to individual taste's..........

Antak,

I think you're a very nice guy. However I do think you need to go soul searching a bit and find out some real music to listen to. R&B hence Eminem and Alicia Keys not your generation genre lah.
There is this Rainforest Jazz Festival in Sarawak every year and so accessible to you. Maybe jazz and world music/jazz will appeal to you. You got good gear I believe. They deserve a better treatment and a diet of good music. Maybe you would like to join us for next year's. It would be nice to have a friend from there, can go find best sea food eating spots too haha.

cooltube, Oh....so you always come here for the Rainforest Music Festival ?
Good.....nice to hear that !!! Next season, please inform me early, no problem, I can pick you people from the Airport, save the Taxi Fare (heh...heh...heh....).
and dont forget your Viewcam too !!!
Well, Its because of my Teenage sons, I can listen to R & B but not
the obscene lyrics type.......before this, I also listen to coolio, 50 cent etc...etc... Actually, I am more to Country Musics, the likes of Conway Twitty, Alan Jackson, Tammy Wynette, Merle Haggard and many many more......

Antak,

Cool man.
Maybe you can arrange for some pretty companions as well hehe. Just kidding.

Ai Ya...." that one " , every where also have lah.....Bali or Surabaya.....
(Just kidding also......)

Antak,

Thought Sarawakians are exotic just like you hehehe.

Nowadays, so many " outsiders " ply their " trade " here in Malaysia.......(sorry to the rest, just for the purpose of conversation lah......(heh....heh...heh....)
Ok bro, " meet " you again in the Forum tomorrow as I am going out now......You know lah, today is a PH so, keluar , jalan, jalan.......

Hey Antak have a nice long wkend.

Antak, Cooltube,

Sounds like a great plan. Been thinking of going for the festival for a few years now. Keep me posted. I'm interested, the jazz, the seafood, the extras....well, can also lah.

Happy weekend same to you also cooltube........and Yes, Wan, Its still a
long way to go. And Congratulation to you on your Number 100th Post !!!
(Threads).........me and cooltube are still " Junior ".......heh....heh....heh...
BTW, where are you Mr " senior " mugenfoo ? so quiet these few days...... ?
or the drop of araldite has gone dry........Happy weekend also to you mugen....
and Kowtim........

am riiiight here !

did ya miss me ? hahaha....

Oooop.....you 're right there....thanks goodness !!!

Music Lover :Pay attention much to the taste music ,to the singers and to the a particular song itself

Hi-Fi Enthusiast: can be Diyer , system extremist, looking for fancy equipment that sounds great,..too much focus on an system integration can sometime forgot the music itself.

when both of them meet togther, like chicken meeting duck..barely can chat for more than 2minutes...

i see that everyone herein is caught between music enjoyment and music reproduction as some is inclined to enjoyment while some is inclined to reproduction, but none is at either extreme

after years i have been dabbling in between, i have realised that if one has achieved some kind of balance, enjoyment and reproduction could be just complimenting and encouraging each other, he could go a very long way!!! alas imbalance may cause both ends to ostracize and frustrate one another, in the long run he could give up either or both



check our balance, how long have we gone? perhaps more importantly, how long more we would enjoy being in between or we just wonder where we were, where we are and where we are heading

vintage_ear wrote:Music Lover :Pay attention much to the taste music ,to the singers and to the a particular song itself

Hi-Fi Enthusiast: can be Diyer , system extremist, looking for fancy equipment that sounds great,..too much focus on an system integration can sometime forgot the music itself.

when both of them meet togther, like chicken meeting duck..barely can chat for more than 2minutes...