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Pioneer BDP-450 3D Bluray Player, HDSir Units, Dual HDMI, Lifetime FW Update,1 YR Warr, 1-1 Exchange

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Post by actsessory Thu May 29, 2014 3:43 pm

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Dual HDMI Output
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HD Sir Jailbreak unit, plays bluray ISO, BDMV, 3D ISO, 3D BDMV etc and support the Java Menu Navigation!!



**No cinavia, no region lock, plays ISO bdmv and all across network some more


Pioneer BDP-450 3D Bluray Player, HDSir Units, Dual HDMI, Lifetime FW Update,1 YR Warr, 1-1 Exchange 450d10
(Paired with Darbee on my own setup)


*Marvel QDEO chip image post-processing, very good and razor sharp picture
 
*Uses MTK MT8555 and Marvell QDEO 88DE2750, the same chip combination in OPPO!


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HD SIR Jailbreak unit  - What’s special for this compared to other Russian / Customs / Diamond Jailbreak??
 
- HDSir Units all from Pioneer Official stock, the ONLY jailbreak version that is under full warranty covered by Pioneer service centre Nationwide China. [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

 
- Bunch of engineers of HDSir’s organization working out for firmware upgrade and support.


- Lifetime firmware upgrade and support.
 
- The jailbroken solution and functionality cant compare with other personal custom / russian / Diamond etc jailbreak versions.. and these void the warranty of your player too!


- CINAVIA FREE, REGION UNLOCKED.

 
 Pioneer BDP-450 3D Bluray Player, HDSir Units, Dual HDMI, Lifetime FW Update,1 YR Warr, 1-1 Exchange 450c10


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#Most suitable if you like collect bluray disc, while love to download HD ISO/BDMV, uses NAS, have high requirement on Audio Visual quality.
 
# Fully support Bluray Java Menu Navigation, SACD ISO playback, NFS network sharing, high bit-stream playback, HDD sub-srt function
 
# 192kHz/24-bit Audio DAC, DTS-HD Master Audio / Dolby TrueHD Decoders
 
# USB x2
 
# Plays BD-ROM,BDR,BD-RE,DTS-CD,CDRW,DVD Audio,SACD,AVCHD/AVCREC,DVD-RW
 
# Free firmware lifetime upgrade for more improvements on functionality.
 
# The dual HDMI ports can be assigned as DUAL / Separate / Pure Audio, making your audio visual output quality even better.


Pioneer BDP-450 3D Bluray Player, HDSir Units, Dual HDMI, Lifetime FW Update,1 YR Warr, 1-1 Exchange 450f10


**Extra orders from AV setup project. Only few units left.



RM1980**Brand New Sealed
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* Lifetime firmware upgrade and support service.
*1 Year Local Warranty by Actsessory Shoppe (Official China Pioneer)
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1 to 1 Exchange/Replacement policy, on manufacturing defect, or even (by user's accidental damage).

We replace you an unit while your unit on claim / repair and leave you no hassle.
Your convenience is our main concern.

## This applies to all the previous customers too, thank you for the support.

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Post by actsessory Thu May 29, 2014 3:50 pm

Optional HDD Enclosure for sale too, tested working seamlessly with Pioneer bdp-450, tested to 4TB Harddrive.

Speed is as fast.. in fact slightly faster than the 3D HDD media player (Bevix BM8038M) i have at home.

Seatry USB3.0 HDD Enclosure:- 
- Uses 12V power adapter, ensures stability for long run.
- Fast and stable JMS566 USB3.0 chip.
- Works for both 2.5" (notebook HDD) and 3.5" (desktop drive) HDD size
- Made of hard ABS material.
- Driverless design, Plug and Play
- Tested to support 4TB HDD
- Open enclosure concept for best ventilation
- Screwless design, easy hot swapping.
- Tested to work seamlessly with Pioneer BDP-450 player.

RM89

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Post by actsessory Thu Jun 12, 2014 10:31 pm

Nice review by Big E, from HIFI UNLIMITED

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Mid Range Excellence! Pioneer BDP-450 Blu-ray/SACD Player + now.. a 3D ISO / BDMV HDD player too.

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Post by actsessory Sat Jun 28, 2014 5:20 pm

Latest stock loaded with latest firmware (dated at June 10th 2014) from HD Sir.

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Post by actsessory Mon Jul 07, 2014 1:21 pm

Plays 100% cinavia free, region free with HD Sir version.
100% Pioneer warranty cover.
Lifetime FW upgrade and support.

*Not 70% and kedai warranty with Customs/Russian jailbreak, touch and go.

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Post by actsessory Mon Jul 14, 2014 7:33 pm

To be updated.


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Post by klimal Mon Jul 14, 2014 10:37 pm

I have been using this cracked fw version for the past 2 months and it has been a great machine. 
Was using a Dune Base 3.0 for past 5 years and I bought this Pioneer 450 for it's 3D function. 
It loads much faster than the dune and plays all my media files     
The color is richer, more saturated and black level is also deeper. This makes the picture have greater depth and punch compared to the Dune. 
Region free but need to press a few buttons to change and also definitely Cinavia free.
The support from the seller has been outstanding , far above and beyond what I consider good. 
And it comes with Official China Pioneer warranty support. 
Just sharing my thots. I have no financial interest.
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Post by lhgin Tue Jul 15, 2014 2:20 pm

hi klimal,

can you elaborate more on "Region free but need to press a few buttons to change"?

can it play the all the cekai BDs?

thanks!

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Post by zamrizan Tue Jul 15, 2014 2:32 pm

Hi,

How long does the free gift valid? Im not from local. My trip to KL is on september.

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Post by klimal Tue Jul 15, 2014 5:18 pm

lhgin wrote:hi klimal,

can you elaborate more on "Region free but need to press a few buttons to change"?

can it play the all the cekai BDs?

thanks!
If the BD or iso file is from a different region, a message will pop up on screen.
Then need to so to the initial set up page, press 8520. Then a menu to change regions will pop us. Just follow instructions.
So far only played *ahem* Pompeii 3D and no problem..
I watch mainly iso media files and BDMV. All comes with full BD Java Navigation Menu.
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Post by actsessory Tue Jul 15, 2014 9:45 pm

Thanks klimal for the support..  cheers 


lhgin wrote:hi klimal,

can you elaborate more on "Region free but need to press a few buttons to change"?

can it play the all the cekai BDs?

thanks!
Region free as in the ability to change to Bluray region A,B and C, just by pressing 4-digit code on the remote control to access the menu to change region under the setup menu.

But very seldom you need to change as a large portion of all Blu-ray movies are region free nowadays, i only changed once so far till now.

Customers that bought the player mainly for cekai bds reported 100% pass...
And a customer told me there are 2 diff quality discs out there, good and bad.
Bad as in bad disc production, which also affects the video/audio quality...mm..


zamrizan wrote:Hi,

How long does the free gift valid? Im not from local. My trip to KL is on september.
Hi.. there is only 1 free gift of that.
Check pm ya.

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Post by jameslee Tue Jul 15, 2014 10:54 pm

Bought one unit about 1 month+ from Actsessory. Also happy to report no problems with playing all the different media from BD ISO, BDMV, Genuine BD Discs & BDRE/BDR Discs including 3D, SACDR Discs, Original SACD Discs, except (of course) it cannot play 4K.

Even updated the firmware twice without any problems.

The audio and picture quality of the BDP-450 is even better than my Denon DBP-2012UD bluray player (about RM2000). And my DBP-2012UD cannot play BD ISO /BDMV.

As a customer, I am very satisfied with the support given by Actsessory.

Mmm... the "minor" problem I have with the Pioneer BDP-450 is there is no small led light in front of unit like the other 3 bluray players that I have. When switch on or off, there is no red or green/yellow light to show unit in standby or not. Each time when I switch on, I don't know whether I have pressed the remote "on" or not and have to wait about 15 to 20 seconds for unit to show "Pioneer" at the display panel. Hehe... I am just nitpicking only.

As queried by lhgin, a picture is worth a thousand words... so I have done screenshots of my LED 3D TV to show how to change Blu-ray Region.


1) Press "Home Menu" on the remote...
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2) Select "Initial Setup" and hit ENTER on remote, the menu changes as shown below...



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3) Then use remote, press the following number buttons in this order... 8 5 2 0, and the "Factory Page" is shown.


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4) Its NOT necessary to change DVD Region Code when its already set to 0 which means play ALL DVD Regions. When necessary only, change the bluray region code. Since Malaysia and US is the same Region A, I always remember to change it back to "A" after playing a few discs with Region B (From UK).

Phew... a long post here.


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Post by bryanlee Tue Jul 15, 2014 11:03 pm

Bought a unit from seller. So far, unit run without any problem. Play all my cekai bds smoothly with good 3D pop up effect. 

And this unit is cinavia protection free, i have this 47Ronin bd and white house down which i can't play on my Panas-sonic player. it lock the sound after watching 30min. But now, i don't have this problem anymore.

I'm agree with what Klimal said, the support from the seller has been outstanding.

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Post by lhgin Wed Jul 16, 2014 7:16 am

guys,

appreciate the feedback. you are wonderful!

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Post by actsessory Sat Jul 19, 2014 11:53 am

Thanks for the support, James and Bryan  cheers Appreciate it truly.

* Lifetime firmware upgrade and support service.
*1 Year Local Warranty by Actsessory Shoppe (Official China Pioneer) (
*1 to 1 Exchange/Replacement policy, on manufacturing defect, or even (by user's accidental damage).

We replace you an unit while your unit on claim / repair and leave you no hassle.
Your convenience is our main concern.


## This applies to ALL the previous customers too, thank you for the support.

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Post by actsessory Fri Jul 25, 2014 7:12 pm

There is MPS, movie poster view function built-in in 450's, designed originally for the cable tv programmes.

Some pro-user uses the open source program to make it happened to display the hdd files..

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Photo courtesy of Remy  cheers

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Post by dr_moebius Wed Jul 30, 2014 8:28 am

hi there.
im from australia. i will be in malaysia from the 2nd aug - 10th.

i have a question if anyone can answer

do you know if it can play a mkv file from a usb device or from a wired network and bitstream hd audio (dts ma / dd truehd) to a av receiver without it being downmixed to dts core/dd..

Thanks

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Post by actsessory Wed Jul 30, 2014 11:37 am

dr_moebius wrote:hi there.
im from australia. i will be in malaysia from the 2nd aug - 10th.

i have a question if anyone can answer

do you know if it can play a mkv file from a usb device or from a wired network and bitstream hd audio (dts ma / dd truehd) to a av receiver without it being downmixed to dts core/dd..

Thanks

Hi, got your PM here and fb too, replied.

As for the question, my take is that...

450 primarily has the best support for iso/bdmv, especially for the region and cinavia free advantages, and its 2 separate HDMI outputs for the better visual output with the same Marvell/MTK chip combination as in Oppo's. 

It does play alot mkv / TS files though, but not all, and will never play bitstream HD audio at the moment..probably future firmware update may get it solved, but it could be Marvell chipset's nature too, choosy about mkvs.

Alot of the 450 users do have a separate media player/PC system for mkvs.. be it Android based / Sigma or Realtek chipset based media player, definitely NOT marvell chipset based player like the Bevix, CenGrand... brands. 

Cant get the both worlds still, Realtek plays basically ALL formats, including low quality rmvb, it plays straight away, but it doesnt has the Java menu features like Marvell's in 450, BD java menu is one of the best fun part / purpose of bluray's for access towards various settings + extra feature scenes of the movie.

Hope this helps.

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Post by actsessory Sun Aug 17, 2014 10:02 am

Welcome to take a look, try or even bring along your content to test. 

So far it's 100% playback for all ISO/BDMVs, *ahem* disc, 100% cinavia free / region free.



**Mr.Chin from Klang came try with some mkvs and some unknown format files (anime) that his Dune doenst play, 450 plays em all.

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Post by actsessory Tue Aug 26, 2014 9:04 pm

Marvell is real strong in playing ISO / BDMVs, be it 2D or 3D, all sapu! Flawlessly...

Do you guys know it plays SACD.ISO too?? a BIG yes!
At least oppo cant.. and Dune?? also.. cyclops

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Post by klimal Wed Aug 27, 2014 2:20 pm

For SACD playback, do you set output to bitstream or PCM?
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Post by bal Wed Aug 27, 2014 2:53 pm

Guys, any feedback as to how this unit fares as just a cd or sacd transport?

Might consider getting one ....

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Post by jameslee Wed Aug 27, 2014 10:36 pm

klimal wrote:For SACD playback, do you set output to bitstream or PCM?


From your profile info, you are using the Denon AVR 4311 as a Pre-Amplifier feeding 5.0 pre-outs to your Anthem PVA5 power amp. I assume your sub-woofer is connected directly to your Denon 4311.

This means you are using your Denon 4311 internal DAC for all the Audio and Video processing.... and is connected via HDMI to your Pioneer BDP-450.

I will try to explain by refering to the Pioneer Manual page 41 which states...

Bitstream... the Pion 450 do not decode anything and send original digital audio out directly to external DAC to process which is ... your Denon 4311.

Since your Denon 4311 can decode all bluray audio formats such as DTS, DTS-HD MA, Dolby, Dolby True-HD, and PCM audio from CDs, FLACs, MP3, and DSD audio from SACDs... and I believe that you have already set this so you are correct.

Bitstream only become a problem when the connected AV Amplifier do NOT support some of the audio formats such as the old Denon AVR 3805 which don't support some bluray audio such as the DTS-HD Master Audio. Also, there are AV Amps that do not support decoding of DSD audio from SACD too.


PCM... when an old AV Amp can't decode bluray HD audio formats (DTS-HD MA, Dolby True-HD), setting this basically takes all the 5.1 or 7.1 channels from DTS-HD MA or Dolby TrueHD and mix them to become 2 Stereo channels PCM output. That means the Pion 450 processes and decodes the audio first before sending it out to the AV amp.

Its fine and okay to set to PCM when playing CDs, SACDs (those with only Stereo Channels) and those Blurays with Stereo 2 channel PCM audio BUT it will be bad for Bluray/DVD movies/concerts with mutli-channel audio which now become "mixed" to only 2 audio channels, causing the surround experience to be missing.


Reencode... hehe... this is interesting as not all Blurays/DVDs titles have "secondary audio" so what is this ?

While playing a movie, some blurays can activate a small pop-up video screen showing how a scene is made in production with audio explanations from the Director, BUT the problem is that the secondary audio will NOT be in DTS-HD MA/Dolby True-HD... only in Dolby Digital, DTS or PCM. When the AV Amp is continuously decoding the playing movie with say, DTS-HD MA, no additional bandwidth is available so no audio will be heard from the DTS secondary audio.

Reecode means the Pion 450 will mix the main and secondary audio together to be 1 audio as Dolby Digital (or PCM, not sure) so that the audio from the main movie and the secondary audio from the pop-up screen can all be heard.

Off.. the Pion 450 (including all bluray players) outputs from HDMI, Optical and Co-Axial are all Digital Outputs so setting this to OFF means completely NO audio output from these connections. "Higher-end" bluray players with dedicated Analog Outputs from RCA or XLR will still have audio output. Unfortunately, the Pion 450 don't have analog Stereo RCA Outputs.

There is a reason why I have explained more than what you have asked and in more detail.

Set Digital Output as Bitstream or PCM?
Since your Denon 4311 can decode SACD "DSD" audio format, its just a matter of choice on whether you want totally "untouched bitstream audio" or "decoded PCM audio" to be sent out from the Pion 450 to your Denon. I don't have to answer that question as you already know the answer now.

So, for people with older AV amp without SACD decoding support, its necessary to set it to PCM in the Pion 450.

Using An External DAC
I have both the Naim DAC V1 and M2Tech Young DSD DACs. It becomes even more interesting when the Co-Axial Output from the Pion 450 is connected to an external DAC... and that DAC output is connected to the AV Amp or Power Amp.

Here is what happened...

I connected my Pion 450 co-axial out to my M2Tech DAC. From the DAC analog XLR output to my Hegel H300 Integrated Amp.

When I played a bluray disc (Susan Wong - My Live Stories), using the BD menu, I set it to LPCM 96/24 Stereo audio... no problem for my M2Tech DAC to decode to my amp and sound so sweet, warm and detailed.
... when I used the BD menu again to change to DTS-HD Master Audio... problem... only zzzzzzzz sound is heard so, obviously my M2Tech DAC can't decode DTS-HD MA !! So... in order to use DTS-HD MA, I have to change the Pion 450 to use PCM and problem solved!

I do have the Pion 450 connected by HDMI to my Denon AVR-4520 and somehow the audio quality from the "Susan Wong" BD disc do not sound so good when compared to using the M2Tech DAC.

When people use additional external DACs as an upgrade to the system, understanding more about the Pion 450 Digital Output settings and the capabilities of the external DACs is important.

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Post by jameslee Thu Aug 28, 2014 1:05 am

bal wrote:Guys, any feedback as to how this unit fares as just a cd or sacd transport?

Might consider getting one ....

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You are presently using a CEC transport connected to the M2Tech DAC which I believe is in a different category when compared to the Pioneer BDP-450 (primarily a bluray/dvd player with additional features).

In my opinion, taking a bluray media player and connecting it to your M2Tech DAC will obviously lose out in audio quality to a good quality CD Player or Transport such as the CEC Transport especially when it has a much better dedicated internal clock.

Instead of comparing audio quality with any CD Transport or Player, it should be closer to home to compare the Pioneer BDP-450 with another bluray media player such as the Oppo bluray players.

Everyone have different tastes and preferences so its very subjective as to what may sound better to one and may sound bad to another. Having said that, I am only giving my personal opinion which others may disagree on the Pioneer BDP-450 audio quality playback.

I do have many toys to play with and I am fortunate enough to have the following source players listed from the best (1) to the worst (5) in audio quality...

1) Rega Apollo R CD Player.
2) Oppo BDP-95 Bluray Player.
3) Oppo BDP-93 Bluray Player.
4) Pioneer BDP-450  Bluray Player.
5) Denon DBP-2012UD Bluray Player.

Somehow the audio quality for (1) loses out in the fine detail and smaller soundstage when compared from Rega playing a CD to the Oppo playing the SACD version of the same "Susan Wong" disc. Only when all the source players used the same CD then Rega beats them all.

The overall result surprised me when the Pioneer BDP-450 edge out the Denon DBP-2012UD.

I have tested all the above under three different system configurations using the same CD, SACD and Bluray for "Susan Wong - My Live Stories", and several other bluray discs.

First... direct connection from above to my Denon AVR-4520 connected to my pair of Monitor RX2 bookshelf as main speakers + other surround/sub speakers.

Second... direct connection from above to my Hegel H300 Integrated Stereo Amplifier connected to my Monitor Audio Gold GX200 floorstand speakers.

Third... direct connection from above to my M2Tech Young DSD DAC which output to my Hegel H300 amp. Same result when my Naim DAC V1 is used.

Each one of the three different connections have its pros and cons depending upon which audio format is being used such as CD, SACD, PC DSD, Bluray, FLAC, WAV. etc.

I am not an Audio Reviewer so I do not have any experience in putting into words and describing how I feel audio should sound great.

The Pioneer BDP-450 Vs Denon 2012UD
When I bought the Pioneer BDP-450 from Actsessory, great guy with excellent support, I was at first a bit sceptical expecting that this player may end up at the bottom of the pack. Fortunately it has beaten the Denon DBP-2012UD by quite a big margin. I can confirm this when two of friends visited me and heard the comparisons.

For me, what the Pioneer 450 beats over the Denon DBP-2012UD is its better clarity and detail for both the CD and SACD audio. Mmm... the Denon 2012UD sound not so "alive". For blurays... especially the action movies...mmm... the Pioneer is a bit more punchy and aggressive.

The Pioneer BDP-450 Vs Oppo BDP-93/95
Probably the Oppo 95 has dedicated Stereo XLR Outputs, it have beaten the Pioneer BDP-450 by a HUGE margin for great soundstage, details, resolution and many others which I don't know how to describe. Even the Oppo BDP-93 is also a clear winner although not a huge margin, with both players using the same Optical and HDMI connections.

The Pioneer BDP-450 Vs Rega Apollo R
Obviously, only CD was used in this test. The Rega, well... as expected... wins by a big (not huge) margin. Adding an external DAC inbetween will only serve to improve the audio quality across both players by the same margin.

Conclusion
Eventhough I don't know which M2Tech DAC you are using, I do believe that your current setup should clearly have much better audio quality than the Pioneer BDP-450 but it would be unfair to compare them in this manner due to the "audiophile quality" of CEC Transport & M2Tech DAC.

I am still very satisfied with my Pioneer BDP-450 purchase from Actsessory. Eventhough it is not the best sounding, it performs admirably in the audio department and can even almost reach the video quality of the Oppo BDP-93 with the same Marvel Video chipset! I don't expect it to beat the video quality of the Oppo 103/105.

Caution... all my comments here are debatable and are only my personal opinion. I am just a customer and not related in any way to the seller Actsessory in this thread.

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Post by bal Thu Aug 28, 2014 9:05 am

An extremely refreshingly honest and detailed review.
Bravo Jameslee.

very grateful.
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Post by actsessory Thu Sep 04, 2014 8:23 am

BRAVO!! Jameslee..

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Post by actsessory Mon Sep 15, 2014 6:54 pm

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PROs:
-Gorgeous picture quality
-Stylish design & robust build quality
-Excellent format support

CONs:
-No built-in Wi-Fi
-Not as generous with web content as rivals
-No analogue audio outputs

Up to date, it is 100%, total solution on ISO/BDMV (with HD Sir FW) - 1 Year 1-1 Exchange warranty.

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As far as HD video playback is concerned, the Pioneer BDP-450 simply can’t be faulted.
The Pioneer BDP-450 also resolves the moving white bars of the Jaggies test with smooth, clean edges
Delivers wonderfully smooth, cinematic pictures, packed with bucketloads of detail, contrast level is also nicely judged, lending depth to black parts of the screen without losing shadow detail, at the same time resolving bright areas with a crisp, eye-catching glint.
Its colour palette is also spot-on, rendering strong colours with real punch
3D movies look even more mesmerising. The active 3D system’s layering adds an absorbing sense of depth, backed up by the punchy detail and spectacular colours.

MUSIC:
It does a fine job with music, passing the digital audio signals to an AV receiver with no evidence of distortion. Multichannel SACD discs sound wonderful through our Onkyo receiver and Teufel speakers, plunging you right inside the music with meticulously resolved high-frequency detail, solid, rhythmic bass and a smooth midrange.

It’s robustly built, gorgeous to look at and conjures up magical high-definition pictures with both 2D and 3D discs.


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A happy friendly gentleman using it almost fully for NAS streaming.. of his giant collection of BDMV/MKV/RMVBs..etc .. thanks for the patience given during troubleshooting cheers

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Post by raif Wed Sep 24, 2014 10:23 am

Hello, I just had my bdp-450 upgraded to hdsir.pro fw supplied by Actsessory.
My previous player already had a free cfw installed but it had some limitations to it. 
For one, sacd iso couldn't be played and since I'm using an ext3 filesystem, the file arrangements 
that were seen by the player was not in alphabetical order (for users that use fat32/ntfs - not an issue). 
After upgrading, both of the major issues above were solved. Not only that, I believe the overall PQ improved as well.
Of course, one of the major advantages of Actsessory is his after sales help which has been praised enough already as 
evident from this forum. An example of this help, is I noticed that after the upgrade, a feature of the pioneer fw called MCU
was not at its latest version and so I asked Actsessory about it. He really went out of his way to find solutions
to fix this and now my player has the latest MCU version. Thank you very much for all your help Actsessory.


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Post by actsessory Fri Sep 26, 2014 1:44 pm

Thanks.. Raif Razz

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Post by whois101 Sat Sep 27, 2014 4:20 pm

Can this BDP450 read huge 3d BDMV/IOS files from a NAS? like 40~50GB?

Will it lag? as the network port only 100 base?

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Post by actsessory Sat Sep 27, 2014 4:39 pm

whois101 wrote:Can this BDP450 read huge 3d BDMV/IOS files from a NAS? like 40~50GB?

Will it lag? as the network port only 100 base?

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No problem at all Steve.
There is a customer bought it for the same application and reported 100%.

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Post by actsessory Tue Oct 07, 2014 10:26 pm

Nice compliments and positive feedbacks to the Pioneer BDP-450 (HDsir FW), thanks Jul for the support.

He owns Oppo 105D, Dune, Sharp Quatron LED, Sony ES55 projector, a RM26k CD player..., sonus faber speakers, audio research...

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Post by actsessory Mon Nov 03, 2014 12:43 pm

Powerful feature BDP450, it's 100% reading ALL iso/bdmv so far..

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Post by raif Mon Nov 03, 2014 3:15 pm

actsessory wrote:Powerful feature BDP450, it's 100% reading ALL iso/bdmv so far..

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Of course to be precise, reading iso/bdmv with full bd menus!!  Laughing

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Post by actsessory Thu Nov 20, 2014 11:22 pm

Exactly.. Full BD menus!!
Thanks very much Raif for the support.. cheers

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Post by actsessory Sat Dec 06, 2014 2:24 pm

A test and review from the German.
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* True Multi-Format Player, plays BDs, DVDs, CDs, SACDs, DVD-Audios.


2D and 3D Blu-rays excite high 24p stability, natural, consistent sharpness and high contrast detail
The BDP-450 shows a significant performance increase and provides excellent performance from just footage will clean up converted, with good sharpness, low noise characteristics and solid steadiness.

Sonically impressed us the BDP-450 with a flawless audio output via HDMI. It reads all formats without a trouble and acts acoustically well above the price level classes.

Pioneer BDP-450 practical appointed an enormously powerful joyful universal player at a fair price that will certainly make many established competitors a hard time

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Post by zamrizan Wed Dec 10, 2014 4:05 pm

After use 3 BD players previously, what I can say about BDP-450 is its produced very nice color, it was pop. Image looks sharper, less noise and decent. Dual HDMI is very convenient and output from separate video/audio is more details and precise. Its so compatible with pirate BD. New BDs that I thought spoil and can't play with my Pana player and about to return are played well too. Can't wait to test it with BDMV/ISO on HDD.

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Post by tingcw Sun Dec 14, 2014 8:41 am

Hi 

I've read above that the BDP-450 can play blu ray iso over NAS but can it be streamed over LAN from my PC?

Tks

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Post by actsessory Sun Dec 14, 2014 9:23 am

tingcw wrote:Hi 

I've read above that the BDP-450 can play blu ray iso over NAS but can it be streamed over LAN from my PC?

Tks
Yes, may connect thru the router, network file sharing, and install a little NFS server program, usually they use haneWIN.

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Post by actsessory Tue Dec 30, 2014 9:39 pm

Pioneer BDP-450 3D Bluray Player, HDSir Units, Dual HDMI, Lifetime FW Update,1 YR Warr, 1-1 Exchange Lye_sy10

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*Set of system including Pioneer 450, 3TB HDD + USB Dock, Darbee Darblet, Bada LB5500 Power conditioner installed in Lye's new palace not too long ago this month.

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Post by actsessory Sat Feb 07, 2015 4:10 pm

Buyer purchase Pioneer 450 along with Darblet DVP-5000,happy with it, thanks for the support!

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Post by actsessory Mon Feb 16, 2015 9:15 pm

Ready stock, ready deal.
Open during CNY too..pls contact for appointment.

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Post by actsessory Fri Mar 20, 2015 3:02 pm

Pioneer 450’s Precision Quartz Lock System (PQLS), which ensures jitterless transmission of two-channel and multi-channel LPCM audio, but only to a compatible Pioneer AVR.

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Post by actsessory Fri Apr 17, 2015 4:24 pm

Region free for BD disc/ISO BDMV files...
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Post by actsessory Sat May 30, 2015 2:35 pm

Ready stock ready deal.
We accept Credit Cards now too..

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Post by actsessory Mon Jun 22, 2015 4:52 pm

See you there...

Actsessory Shoppe, with Maxx Audio Visual are participating in the coming KL International AV exhibition in J.W.Marriott KL.
We are most flattered to see you there!
* 3rd-5th JULY 2015
* FREE 4th Edition Audiophile Commemorative CD &

RM5 BHPetrol Voucher for Every Ticket Purchase
While Stock Lasts !
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Post by actsessory Sat Jul 18, 2015 1:00 am

Opens during raya...

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Post by actsessory Sun Sep 13, 2015 11:06 pm

Welcome for demo.
Cinavia free, region free, reads ISO BDMVs flawlessly..
Supports 4TB HDD.. 6TB not yet tried.

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