Re: Naim Audio - discussion thread

by flyfly on Tue Nov 08, 2011 11:44 pm

now come back to Naim topic,..what is the best rules of thumb to maintain a naim equipment,which one needs more attention.

In term of parts support[local] who is the right person to look for[original Naim parts]

by mofaz on Thu Nov 10, 2011 8:34 am

Thinking of going for Naim UnitiQute anyone using it appreciate feed backs Thanks.

by Mikapoh on Thu Nov 10, 2011 9:19 am

flyfly wrote:now come back to Naim topic,..what is the best rules of thumb to maintain a naim equipment,which one needs more attention.

In term of parts support[local] who is the right person to look for[original Naim parts]

I bet you should look for CMY as they are authorized dealer for Naim in M'sia.

I ain't quite sure your first question. They are no specific rules to 'maintain' them. All naim equipments are built to last unless they are being sabotaged. All you need to do is let them powering on and avoid using high inductance and capacitance speakers cables. They also suggest once it is properly installed, forget the black boxes and enjoy the music. This is what I was told by naim UK!

Cheers.

by cyl1000 on Thu Nov 10, 2011 9:55 am

I do not leave my system power on all the time and I have not thought of how to maintain them until if it is broken Very Happy

by Chewkw on Thu Nov 10, 2011 7:40 pm

Naim Audio is durable.

Only recap when is distortion.

My NAC 12 serial no 8xx is still working good.

by cyh on Thu Nov 10, 2011 10:41 pm

Another Naim item seldom discussed here? Naim cds? I like Antonio Forcione!

by shslpg on Thu Nov 10, 2011 11:27 pm

Ya, naim CDs recording are good and cheap compare to audiophile CDs. Agree?

by cyh on Thu Nov 10, 2011 11:37 pm

Cheap & sometimes we get it for free!

by mugenfoo on Fri Nov 11, 2011 12:08 am

shslpg wrote:Ya, naim CDs recording are good and cheap compare to audiophile CDs. Agree?

Good, yes. Cheap...? Have you checked the price of a typical Naim label CD at CMY lately ?

by JediSavant on Fri Nov 11, 2011 12:24 am

Hmmm... how's about NAIM lp's?

by shslpg on Fri Nov 11, 2011 12:30 am

Cyh,
Never see that b4. Antique!!!

Mugenfoo,
Price increase again? Long time didn't been there already.

by Mikapoh on Fri Nov 11, 2011 9:29 am

You guys can buy directly from Naim label official website. There are Hi-res download too. I bought a few incl Antonio Forcione cd. It is much cheaper than Amazon or locally.

http://www.naimlabel.com/

by shslpg on Fri Nov 11, 2011 11:11 am

Thanks for the idea. How long gonna takes for the shipment?

by Mikapoh on Fri Nov 11, 2011 11:26 am

Fast & efficient. Less than 2 weeks. Should be 7 working days.

by shslpg on Fri Nov 11, 2011 12:23 pm

Just try purchased sampler 8 & charlie Haden. See how long it takes. Really cheap ya. Us7.99 plus postage about us8+

by Mikapoh on Fri Nov 11, 2011 12:43 pm

shslpg wrote:Just try purchased sampler 8 & charlie Haden. See how long it takes. Really cheap ya. Us7.99 plus postage about us8+

Good. Equally interested the speed of delivery. Last time I received mine in approx 10 days with 2 or 3 days from KL to Kch.

Yes, the price is at bargain. I will get the sampler 8 soon. Recording is top-notch.

by shslpg on Fri Nov 11, 2011 12:45 pm

Sampler 8 still cannot try listen. Too bad. But it's cheap, so just buy it. Anymore recommended CDs?

by shslpg on Fri Nov 11, 2011 12:51 pm

Acoustic achelmy - rose land is good but not for sale outside Europe.

by shslpg on Wed Nov 16, 2011 1:41 pm

Finally received CDs from naim, bought at Friday last week and received today wednesday! Super fast!

by Mikapoh on Wed Nov 16, 2011 2:06 pm

See I told you. They are very efficient!

BTW, do you do house-keeping on your naim equipments?

by shslpg on Wed Nov 16, 2011 2:26 pm

What sort of house keeping you mention?

by Mikapoh on Wed Nov 16, 2011 2:52 pm

The manufacturer recommends every 6 months the equipments should be "serviced" by its owner, ie unplugs and re-plugs all the cables to maintain the cleanliness of the contacts and get rid of the statics accumulated.... something like that.

I think if you've a stack of components, it will be a hassle.

by shslpg on Wed Nov 16, 2011 3:13 pm

Wow, I didn't really do that. But sometimes swap place or exchange with my bro then only have the chance to unplug and plug it back. As all the plug at the component still very shinny.

by tmahmood on Fri Dec 02, 2011 9:56 pm

Hi, any one out there using the Stageline phono stage? Am thinking of getting one to replace my decade plus old Dino Trichord. But the fact that It is limited to either mm or mc is making me stall on my intention.

by **WongKN** on Fri Dec 02, 2011 10:19 pm

At one time, contact cleaner was popular for use in cleaning the RCA plugs. There were two approaches - the use of the consumer type contact cleaners or even video head cleaners as found in hardware or electrical shops (I think places like ACE has them) and then there are also the hifi accessories (I remember one brand named contakt or something like that). I used to simply get the normal electrical contact cleaners from the hardware shop and I remember cleaning the rca plugs until they really shine, especially those 24-carat plated ones. I felt the method of unplug and re-plug can scar the rca plug surfaces.

by **WongKN** on Fri Dec 02, 2011 10:21 pm

It is actually called 'Kontak'.

by Mikapoh on Fri Dec 02, 2011 11:08 pm

WongKN wrote:At one time, contact cleaner was popular for use in cleaning the RCA plugs. There were two approaches - the use of the consumer type contact cleaners or even video head cleaners as found in hardware or electrical shops (I think places like ACE has them) and then there are also the hifi accessories (I remember one brand named contakt or something like that). I used to simply get the normal electrical contact cleaners from the hardware shop and I remember cleaning the rca plugs until they really shine, especially those 24-carat plated ones. I felt the method of unplug and re-plug can scar the rca plug surfaces.

Still Naim Audio factory recommendation is plug and unplug for every 6 months. They are not fussy on 'snake oils'. Maybe all their plugs and terminals are non 24-karat gold coated ones, hahaha.... However, they do not stop naim users to use "those" liquid cleaner as some of them are found to be harmful. Instead cable dressing for them is more important as their cables are all "unshielded". Making sure no touching between power and signal cables. Another one is speakers cables, NACA5 should be arranged in such a way to avoid coiling sequence to ensure low inductance. Other than that, they ask you to enjoy the music :-)

by **WongKN** on Fri Dec 02, 2011 11:42 pm

Yes, I understand Naim do have their own set of recommendations and it would be wise to follow them I would think.

Actually a number of manufacturers do recommend unplugging then replugging at regular intervals instead of recommending cleaners because most do not make cleaners and they usually don't recommend other people's things, probably due to commercial reasons or something. Still, many people have reported benefits from using proper cleaners though it is of course wise to be cautious. At one time there was even a popular gel-like liquid one uses to enhance the plug to socket surface contact - I forgot the brand. Then later people says it gunks up the contact surface. So I suppose the best is to use the good old mechanical method. I remember back in my younger days when I would regularly do this ritual on every rca sockets in the amp. So I will happily admit to having tried a lot of things, including using the contact enhancing stuff. Very Happy

On another matter, I'd always felt that the motto "enjoy the music" should be taken as a given, i.e. it is assumed that after all is said and done, all hifi owner's ultimate intention at the end of the day is to enjoy the music. I think it would be sad to have to constantly remind oneself to enjoy the music, so Naim is certainly giving out some good advice ! hahahahah !!

by roger15ohm on Wed Dec 28, 2011 6:07 pm

Hi all Naim guru,

Just wonder do we recap, or service Naim in Malaysia? Mine is pretty old setup.

Thanks.

by Naim_Audio on Wed Dec 28, 2011 10:08 pm

object is EPOS 14 non- biwire version[ zero cross over]..what is the best suggestion to run active on it with naim snaxo effectively?

what would you do then ?

note:i will only use it to experiment as this is the cheapest speaker can get around for such purposes. Idea

by Mikapoh on Wed Dec 28, 2011 11:27 pm

roger15ohm wrote:Hi all Naim guru,

Just wonder do we recap, or service Naim in Malaysia? Mine is pretty old setup.
Thanks.

Hey bro,

Are u from Kuching?

I am afraid only at Naim HQ, Salisbury UK will they service or recap your old naim gears. Once recap your gears are as good as new. Maybe you can contact CMY for the arrangement.

Cheers.

by roger15ohm on Thu Dec 29, 2011 4:12 am

Forgot to apologize to all that I hijack this thread.

Mikapoh,

Actually I am back from somehwere to Kuching. To my best knowledge most places do have qualified agents to perform at least checking, servicing or even recap? Or is there a nearest place to perform recap?

Recap is count by cumulative years of serving or once the gear hit 8-10 years?

Thanks.

by Mikapoh on Thu Dec 29, 2011 9:22 am

roger15ohm wrote:Forgot to apologize to all that I hijack this thread.

Mikapoh,

Actually I am back from somehwere to Kuching. To my best knowledge most places do have qualified agents to perform at least checking, servicing or even recap? Or is there a nearest place to perform recap?

Recap is count by cumulative years of serving or once the gear hit 8-10 years?
Thanks.

Normally it is 10yrs or so the gear will need to be serviced. I do not know there is any authorized service centre in M'sia. Maybe someone can help.

Oh, you are absolutely in the right thread!

by roger15ohm on Thu Dec 29, 2011 11:02 am

By the way anyone recap your Naim gear before? I am quite worry if we have to send the amp all the way to UK, which will cost dearly at first place. How about taxation bringing it back to us again? I do believe there are some nearer service agents to Malaysia. Or most Naim lover keep upgrading to avoid recap their set?

Thanks for sharing.

by shslpg on Thu Dec 29, 2011 1:01 pm

by bal on Thu Dec 29, 2011 4:21 pm

wow, where did you get that gorgeous equiptment stand from?
Bal

shslpg wrote:

by shslpg on Thu Dec 29, 2011 4:48 pm

is mana acoustics from my brother. he had it for aged already. Very Happy

by bal on Thu Dec 29, 2011 5:16 pm

Ah... Mana. Good brand.

But don't know 'mana' mau cari in KL. Very Happy

Hmm, seems to me many members selling their NAIM in the forum lately... i wonder why... upgrade to better Naim perhaps.

Or is there some other reason, just curious.

Bal.

by shslpg on Thu Dec 29, 2011 5:35 pm

No idea. As my Nac82 also for sale due to upgrade to 52. How bout u? What's ur current system?

by roger15ohm on Thu Dec 29, 2011 6:26 pm

SHSlpg

Please invite me to audit Nac52 if I happen to visit your place.

I bought a simple Nac 32.5ed with Hicap on March and Nap140 on April this year but toying with 821 upgrade card on and off. I don't think I will upgrade because owning it with different purpose. I love the solid sleeve design, the size, and of coz, the cb polish. Of course, much cheaper then your 52. Very Happy

by shslpg on Thu Dec 29, 2011 7:42 pm

Roger15ohm,

You are most welcome. Need you guy advise/guide on setup to make it fully perform.

by roger15ohm on Fri Dec 30, 2011 5:50 am

Hi guys, I am going back to Malaysia very soon. I am carrying my Naim all with original box. How is the tax will look like? Do I have to prepare a fake receipt? Thanks

by mofaz on Fri Dec 30, 2011 8:40 am

Roger15ohm...i bet there are custom officers in this forum who is also a hifi buff and he'll be waiting for YOU at the airport !!

by bal on Fri Dec 30, 2011 8:44 am

shslpg wrote:No idea. As my Nac82 also for sale due to upgrade to 52. How bout u? What's ur current system?

I have a Eastland Sound cd player doing transport duties, feeding a Buffalo dac II

going into a home made valve pre-amp, feeding a Vincent power amp, into a Maggie MMG.

Also use Musical Fidelity V3 headphone amp and Sennheisser hd650 cans.

No Naim, i have been reading here as i want to upgrade my amp to one that better drives my maggie, and was wondering about Naim, as i do place great importance on PRAT. Still undecided between Naim and Condrad Johnson valve power amp.

Warm regards,
Bal.

by roger15ohm on Mon Jan 02, 2012 11:30 am

Hi Bal,

I was using tube amps for long times. Tube amps are so interesting that it never stop from tubes rolling and fancy sound caps upgrade,bla bla bla, . I hope you agree but for me, I ended up with Naim in first place because I am not good in understanding transistor circult. Therefore it put a stop to my internal upgrades venture. Basically Naim emphasis on their close systems from B (amps) to Y (speaker cable). So you can concerntrate on A (cd player) and Z (speaker) to complete your setup. Besides, Naim have a great headphone amp too!

I had spent months reading, exploring Naim before settle down with it then any other brands. Eventually all paid off and worth every penny.

I see plentiful of local using Naim here. I believe they will be helpful enough to guide you thru.

Happy New Year.

by roger15ohm on Thu Jan 05, 2012 4:34 am

Hi all,

Would a common computer power cord good enough to the original one? Or should I go to CMY to source for original, which by all means plenty claims no different to common type.

thanks for sharing.

by flyfly on Thu Jan 05, 2012 10:02 am

roger15ohm wrote:Hi all,

Would a common computer power cord good enough to the original one? Or should I go to CMY to source for original, which by all means plenty claims no different to common type.

thanks for sharing.

No fix rule,use your own ears to judge,the fact is Naim cabtree plug is made of good material should enhance contactivity leading to conductivity. in hifi ,everything does change its sound to which is correct or not still a very subjective personal taste.

If you like the 'new" sound so be it...i bet you ..even you put a durian on top of your player also alter the sounds..try to see...is it practical? your mileage may varies.

i onced seen a guru..who who prefer to tweak his room with many crystals ball around..yes it does make the sounds very sweet and round..sounds much more harmony

by roger15ohm on Fri Jan 06, 2012 6:50 am

Thanks alot flyfly.

by roger15ohm on Fri Jan 06, 2012 4:17 pm

Hi all,

Not very sure with this, is it possible to biamping with hicap but without Naxo? How does naxo works anyway?

Thanks.

by JediSavant on Fri Jan 06, 2012 5:04 pm

Wow.... What is Naxo?.. I didn't know that there's a Naxo in Naim land....

The only Naxo I know of is a French pro sound brand that produces awesome speakers for concert venues, PA systems and recording studios...