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Post by leecalkin Sat Sep 24, 2016 6:49 pm

He will message you saying he's interested in your item for sale. He will say he will take bus to Berjaya Times Square. And when comes the appointed time and date he may say that he took the wrong bus bought by his sister and ended in another bus station and the run around. He will also claim he forgotten his ATM card and does not have enough cash and a load of bull. This chap really gives A bad name to Singaporean. SO WATCH OUT FOR HIS MODUS OPERANDI.

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Post by Sonerin Sat Sep 24, 2016 7:51 pm

I had this guy before as well.

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Post by innovate Sat Sep 24, 2016 9:12 pm

Me too

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Post by sph Sat Sep 24, 2016 9:22 pm

Besides the excuses, did he cheat you guys?

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Post by leecalkin Sat Sep 24, 2016 9:37 pm

So guys beware if it's a Singapore telephone number.

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Post by leecalkin Sat Sep 24, 2016 9:48 pm

Dealing with Singaporean insist on deposit

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Post by chewkwokhon Sat Sep 24, 2016 10:54 pm

Beware of this guy who appeared as a Singaporean but also carried the following mobile phone numbers:

65-8184 6660

65-8232 0188

017-7116717

65-85081818


He communicated me first on
9-4-2126
then 7-6-2016
again 17-6-2016

Using all the above number.  Very likely is the same Monkey.

I am keeping all his chat on my mobile, just in case anyone doubting me.


Last edited by chewkwokhon on Fri Oct 21, 2016 10:08 am; edited 2 times in total

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Post by hushymushy Sat Sep 24, 2016 11:03 pm

wow....can I suggest admin to pin up or have a section for fellow forummers to provide feedback on sellers and buyers?

at least in future we know who we are dealing with

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Post by chupping Sun Sep 25, 2016 12:28 am

Me too...
May 29...Pp expiring today
Sept 5...lost hp
Sept 10...father passed away
Sept 17... father hospitalised
Next...bla bla

To those seller from JB....no 1 target

Tq 4 ur info...

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Post by chkl026 Sun Sep 25, 2016 1:43 am

After reading the postings above, I went and checked my whatsapp and I want to add  that I also have one similar case like this, thru the no+65 81846660.  

Many months back I was letting go my used amp and he msg me, similar story, he is coming to KL to buy somone else speakers and would like to have my amp as well. He will leave from BTS and asked me to pack my item and meet him there for Cod. Very pleasant discussion as everything going on decently, he asked me to show him the item photos and the video proving it is working.  However on the day ( Sunday morning) to transact , he suddenly said he still in sgp and missed the bus to kl due to he was drunk last night. After knowing his problem , I called off the discussion immediately.

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Post by beano Sun Sep 25, 2016 4:06 am

this guy is a mentally retarded person.he is not into cheating your money but just for fun like 5 years old kids.A MENTAL! becareful with SG number.TQ

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Post by Hi-Fi 4 Sale Sun Sep 25, 2016 8:39 am

Thanks for the feedback, guys. Clearly, it's the same person.

This post is now a sticky, right at the top. You may use it for sharing other 'buyer/seller beware' scenarios.
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Post by kakibook Sun Sep 25, 2016 10:44 am

It happened to me years ago. It was a singaporean buyer.

I lug a heavy 30kg Yaqin KT 88 int amp and ended up waiting 30 minutes at Times square for nothing.

he would give all kinds of excuse to lure me to Time Square and even confirmed at Midnight 12am that he boarded the coach.

Well I was not alone, another guy with a DSLR also waiting for him with another soup story by the same buyer.

I was getting suspicious as how would he carry that heavy amp back to Singapore and he was well prepared with answers !!

In the past, I notice successful deal with Singaporean is via courier offices at JB.

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Post by kicit Sun Sep 25, 2016 10:08 pm

This sick Singaporean fellow seems like to play this kind of game, wasting me few times purposely travel to time square meet with him. Something serious mental problem on him.

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Post by Hi-Fi 4 Sale Mon Sep 26, 2016 10:16 am

His details can be found here:
https://www.tapatalk.com/topic/226957-38562

Some history from another forum in SG:
http://www.xtremeplace.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=223356.0
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Post by Sonerin Sun Oct 09, 2016 8:38 pm

Really a nut case

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Post by ktek Tue Oct 11, 2016 5:16 pm

too much time to waste others.

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Post by Chanddra Mon Oct 17, 2016 12:50 pm

This guys very famous in Singapore. Change his mobile always and hunt down seller & make them run here and there... He is retarded man. Just watch out

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Post by vintageguys Mon Oct 17, 2016 1:15 pm

Im facing same problem with this Singaporean buyer , CHEATER!
BEWARE!
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Post by leeyewyew Wed Oct 26, 2016 7:16 am

Ask for a deposit if buyers requested to meet up other than your place.

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Post by robertccy Tue Nov 22, 2016 11:06 am

Hi, i bought a Philips CD Player from the seller slkhu in this forum. https://www.hifi4sale.net/t57120-philips-cd582-cd-player-tda1541a-sold

Unfortunately the item is not as described by the seller which the cd player did not player CDR and skipping even with ori CD. the remote control not working at all. 

i try to contact him to solve the problem, but he refused to do anything and saying that nothing he can do.

when i informed him that i will report this to the admin, he reply just go ahead. So what to do?

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Post by joagib Fri Jan 13, 2017 1:33 pm

Dear members,
Pinning down a might be scammer is every members responsibility,we cant always rely on the Moderators,they're normal people like us,they have their own job .We just need to flagged for awareness when something doesnt seems right,then hightlight to the Moderators to investigate for the benefits of all to make this hifi4sale forum a clean and safe forum.
After my 1st flagged,I have been coordinating closely with the Moderators on this scammer since December 2016.
Moderators have come into attention that this suspicious scammer that i flagged was a newly registered user with different locations(Indonesia,Singapore. ..etc)/
posting undervalued selling price/no value contacts number/updating sells to sold immediately after being flagged as scammer/keep changing profile pics(latest was a chinese guy photo)which might be extracted from Internet/ re-registering new username once posting has been flagged suspicious for scam ..etc.
In order to retaliate,scammer extracted most' not all of my past sales posting dated as far as 2014 to named and shame me as scammer.
I have bought/sold many items in hifi4sale and most of my buyers who came to collect personally at my place(Singapore)was welcome with lunch or dinner follow by sharings of audio,hifi experiences. ..we have since become good friends...thats the spirit in this hobby.If I am a scammer,I would have been flagged down many years ago..
It is not friendly to post my buyers username or contacts here,I have already sent the full list of buyers username/contacts for verification to the Moderators.I have also forwarded an uncomfortable PM which this scammer has sent me:' Dont try to save others'...what does this scammer means? Is he telling me that if by trying to save others,I will get myself into trouble?
No way! We dont bow down to Saturn.
We bow to our God !
Lastly,I exposed this might be scammer with good intentions in mind,the rest will be follow up by Moderators.
Cheers!

PM screenshot from scammer:
Buyer/Seller BEWARE Scenarios Screenshot_20170113-101009_zpsvxczk4lc

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Post by pai69 Mon Feb 06, 2017 5:43 pm

Hello,
Good day to all.
I'd like to know what does the reputation number signify. e.g. In the profile, I mean.
Thanks,
Pai

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Post by Hi-Fi 4 Sale Tue Feb 07, 2017 11:25 am

pai69 wrote:Hello,
Good day to all.
I'd like to know what does the reputation number signify. e.g. In the profile, I mean.
Thanks,
Pai
Nothing, really. It's a feature we want to disable.
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Post by joagib Mon Mar 13, 2017 10:45 pm

Hi guys,
This clown just struck again,pls take note of his hp numbers,updated by forum members who recently got conned by this clown!
Police report has been made,
Bank was also informed.
For those who have been conned by this clown,please make a Police report so that he can be nailed asap.


http://www.xtremeplace.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=248484.msg1197424#msg1197424

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Post by my206 Mon Jul 10, 2017 9:08 pm

Sifus,

When I was clearing my whatsApp today, I have noticed that this clown put up a selfie in his profile. I have no idea if this was him. Should I post his photo in this group? Does anyone notice him?

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Post by vintageguys Mon Jul 10, 2017 11:57 pm

Please share or post the picture into this group 

Thanks
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Post by mikey8811 Thu Mar 01, 2018 3:08 pm

Public Service Announcement:

Chinese New Year is coming to a close so I thought I would share a list of time wasters and untrustworthy folk who I have been unfortunate enough to endure in the past year:

1. Chan Kok Ming, 0164102885 - allegedly from Penang and KL. Looks like a dweeb from his Whatsapp pic. Likes to boast about his companies, assets and many hi fi systems. Big time waster, made many appointments to deal accompanied by lots of excuses and ultimately no show.

2. Kong brothers, 0167233886, 0193288102 - from Melaka. Again big time wasters. Lowballers who like to bargain like crazy and then no show. One of them came with his wife to my place, sat for a few hours swapping components and cables, said he would return next week to transact. Never heard from him again. Like to talk about their vintage gear circa 1990's. The other bargains incessantly over a small item, confirms and says he will get a friend to pick it up. Never heard from him again

3. Yong, 0168262626 - supposedly from Tawau. Has a Whatsapp pic of himself in some regalia - maybe Dato outfit. Likes to phone and talks lengthily about his vintage gear again circa 1990's. Confirms transaction, says will transfer funds in next hour and to pack up item for shipment. Didn't hear from him and on follow up says he decides not to go through. Big time waster.

If any of you have the misfortune to encounter these blokes, give them a wide berth. Truly not worth the hassle.

I have met guys from all walks of life on HF4S and there are truly some nice folk out there, many of whom I have made friends with.

Unfortunately, the aforesaid guys give Hi Fi buyers a bad name! With such untrustworthy behaviour, I feel sorry for those who have to deal with them on a daily basis business wise.

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Post by mikey8811 Wed Jan 23, 2019 11:54 pm

mikey8811 wrote:Public Service Announcement:

Chinese New Year is coming to a close so I thought I would share a list of time wasters and untrustworthy folk who I have been unfortunate enough to endure in the past year:

1. Chan Kok Ming, 0164102885 - allegedly from Penang and KL. Looks like a dweeb from his Whatsapp pic. Likes to boast about his companies, assets and many hi fi systems. Big time waster, made many appointments to deal accompanied by lots of excuses and ultimately no show.

2. Kong brothers, 0167233886, 0193288102 - from Melaka. Again big time wasters. Lowballers who like to bargain like crazy and then no show. One of them came with his wife to my place, sat for a few hours swapping components and cables, said he would return next week to transact. Never heard from him again. Like to talk about their vintage gear circa 1990's. The other bargains incessantly over a small item, confirms and says he will get a friend to pick it up. Never heard from him again

3. Yong, 0168262626 - supposedly from Tawau. Has a Whatsapp pic of himself in some regalia - maybe Dato outfit. Likes to phone and talks lengthily about his vintage gear again circa 1990's. Confirms transaction, says will transfer funds in next hour and to pack up item for shipment. Didn't hear from him and on follow up says he decides not to go through. Big time waster.

If any of you have the misfortune to encounter these blokes, give them a wide berth. Truly not worth the hassle.

I have met guys from all walks of life on HF4S and there are truly some nice folk out there, many of whom I have made friends with.

Unfortunately, the aforesaid guys give Hi Fi buyers a bad name! With such untrustworthy behaviour, I feel sorry for those who have to deal with them on a daily basis business wise.

This is really funny. I was sent a link to this post

https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/barclay-digital-transports-a-scam.5704/

and recalled timewasters No. 2 above.

One of the brothers came over to my place expressing an intention to purchase a DAC. He sat and listened to a stack of CD's for the whole afternoon. Then he went to his car to get a flashy looking transport to test. I obliged even though it meant a major moving around of cables and equipment. It was this brand Barclay that I had never heard of. It looked like it was solidly built but the sound was pedestrian at best. He kept oohing and aahing over it and said how much better it was than my transport. I nodded in agreement with him, after all he says he is about to buy a DAC I had listed for sale (he didn't in the end).

He kept saying it was such a good high end transport and he had purchased it for a steal that very day, driving from Melaka to Penang and then back to KL just for this baby.

Well, turns out it is a rebadged basic Marantz as per the detailed analysis in the link.

You gotta wonder at these suckers sometimes and the money they spend for schlock.

Mr. Kong, wherever you are, I hope you are enjoying your overpriced transport in ignorant bliss about what it truly is!

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Post by Hi-Fi 4 Sale Fri Feb 28, 2020 9:44 am

This week itself, we have been notified of potential scams. We use the term, 'potential', mainly because we are neither directly privy, nor in the payment/delivery chain of these transactions.

We and the hi-fi community need collective help to fight this. There can be no definite conclusion, unless we get sufficient data and experience from the community. Your voice counts to make this a safer place for hi-fi enthusiasts and hobbyists.

In the meantime, do add your experience with your seller here. This post is deliberately made sticky.

Thank you for your assistance in advance.
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Post by Leecc73 Sat Mar 07, 2020 12:45 pm

Please verify carefully before deal. It could be fake.

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Post by mofaz Sat Mar 07, 2020 1:20 pm

Yup...last time selling Schiit Vidars and from Bukit Mertajam (In Laws in Kampar) Lol...

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Post by Sonerin Sat Mar 07, 2020 4:13 pm

Oh the same guy

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Post by Anwar Mon Mar 09, 2020 6:45 am

Those who have been cheated by this person before, kindly share the contact numbers and usernames in hifi4sale.  I believe fraudulent sellers like this one have many phone numbers, emails, and userids.  TQ
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Post by mofaz Mon Mar 09, 2020 9:09 am

His modus operandi is to ask for minimum deposit ..normally RM 500 and promised to courier using DHL (claimed his inlaw business has account with DHL so can ship at no additional cost) and will "trust" the buyer to pay the rest upon receiving the item...he even claimed that he was the one being cheated numerous times before ..even whatsapp allegedly police reports claiming being cheated...

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Post by yss7401 Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:08 am

Thanks guys reminding us

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Post by Hi-Fi 4 Sale Mon Mar 09, 2020 4:18 pm

Dear Members,

Have just merged your posts about username thinthang into this general thread.
May I ask that you state the username in the posts too. Once we merge posts, the original post title will be lost.

Many thanks,
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Post by WillT Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:11 pm

I been lucky. Buy and sell mostly delivery through courier. All smooth. Phew. 😬
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Post by Anwar Sun Mar 15, 2020 9:31 pm

Dear Admin,

To make it a bit more difficult for scammers and conman to operate their fraudulent operation in hifi4sale, I would like to suggest for any new user account created, let's wait 1 or 2 weeks before the new user can create/post an advertisement.  The conman can keep changing their userid in hifi4sale after their previous userid(s) blocked by admin, so not allowing new users to post advert immediately will help.

Thank you.
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Post by dexth77 Wed Mar 10, 2021 8:47 pm

CONMAN ALERT. I POSTED LOOKING FOR HSU SUBWOOFER AND THIS GUY CAME OFFERING. MY BAD FOR EASY TO BELEIVE AND FULLY TRANSFERRED RM2.3K. ONCE MONEY IN, TOTALLY DISSAPEARED. 
HE IS EASY TO BELEIVE DUE TO HIS GOOD COMMUNICATION AND KNOWLEDGE ABOUT HIFI AND EVEN HAVE PICTURE OF ITEMS.
MAY MY BAD LUCK BE A LESSON TO THE REST.

ANY ADVICE IF I SHUOLD LODGE A POLICE REPORT? 

NAME MOHAMMAD RIDZUAN
ACCOUNT: MAYBANK 114067063245
PHONE: 01172683379

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Post by Anwar Thu Mar 11, 2021 1:30 pm

dexth77 wrote:CONMAN ALERT. I POSTED LOOKING FOR HSU SUBWOOFER AND THIS GUY CAME OFFERING. MY BAD FOR EASY TO BELEIVE AND FULLY TRANSFERRED RM2.3K. ONCE MONEY IN, TOTALLY DISSAPEARED. 
HE IS EASY TO BELEIVE DUE TO HIS GOOD COMMUNICATION AND KNOWLEDGE ABOUT HIFI AND EVEN HAVE PICTURE OF ITEMS.
MAY MY BAD LUCK BE A LESSON TO THE REST.

ANY ADVICE IF I SHUOLD LODGE A POLICE REPORT? 

NAME MOHAMMAD RIDZUAN
ACCOUNT: MAYBANK 114067063245
PHONE: 01172683379

When I get conned by Thin Thang about a year ago, I immediately made police report.  Since the scammer used biz bank account, police refused to investigate further and asked me to file a claim with Consumer Tribunal.  Due to MCOs throughout last year, no action was taken by Consumer Tribunal.

I suggest you go to Court and submit Small Claims to the nearest Court.  Limit of claim is RM5k.  No need to use lawyer, but there are some small fees.

https://judiciary.kehakiman.gov.my/portals/media/attachments/Self-Representative/Small%20Claim.pdf
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Post by wingman Thu Apr 08, 2021 3:00 pm

Good Day...All, 

Wantimg to bring to everyone’s awareness of a scammer within this forum that goes by the name “Loke” or his/her long name “Loke Hong Chen” with mobile #”0 16-665 5266” with OCBC account number “7302550795“. 

Paid for item and seller went silent ... blocked my mobile #.

Moderators - pls move if this post is not to be in this thread, tq.


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Post by dadiocool Thu Apr 08, 2021 3:40 pm

Oh yes, same person but Im smarter than him. I got the whole conversation, with edited google photo witj my name on a piece paper. Clearly edited...haha.

He claimed from Mentakab, all photo he shared are from google. When I asked about hifi4sale ID, he didnt response and removed his WA profile showing a guard house at condo.... (mentakab?)

🤣

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Post by bassraptor Thu Apr 08, 2021 5:23 pm

wingman wrote:Good Day...All, 

Wantimg to bring to everyone’s awareness of a scammer within this forum that goes by the name “Loke” or his/her long name “Loke Hong Chen” with mobile #”0 16-665 5266” with OCBC account number “7302550795“. 

Paid for item and seller went silent ... blocked my mobile #.

Moderators - pls move of this is mot to be om this thread, tq.

Thanks, Siva, it's okay to post scammer info here to alert members.

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Post by gettindirty Thu Apr 08, 2021 8:07 pm

Thanks for sharing!

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Post by wingman Thu Apr 08, 2021 9:43 pm

dadiocool wrote:Oh yes, same person but Im smarter than him. I got the whole conversation, with edited google photo witj my name on a piece paper. Clearly edited...haha.

He claimed from Mentakab, all photo he shared are from google. When I asked about hifi4sale ID, he didnt response and removed his WA profile showing a guard house at condo.... (mentakab?)

🤣
... exactly... claim he is from Mentakab... working in his father-in-laws timber company....lesson learnt... “KARMA” will catch up with him...feel sorry for the genuine sellers within this forum...
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Post by wingman Thu Apr 08, 2021 9:45 pm

bassraptor wrote:
wingman wrote:Good Day...All, 

Wantimg to bring to everyone’s awareness of a scammer within this forum that goes by the name “Loke” or his/her long name “Loke Hong Chen” with mobile #”0 16-665 5266” with OCBC account number “7302550795“. 

Paid for item and seller went silent ... blocked my mobile #.

Moderators - pls move of this is mot to be om this thread, tq.

Thanks, Siva, it's okay to post scammer info here to alert members.
... thanks...🙏🏾
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Post by Hi-Fi 4 Sale Thu Apr 08, 2021 10:20 pm

wingman wrote:Good Day...All, 

Wantimg to bring to everyone’s awareness of a scammer within this forum that goes by the name “Loke” or his/her long name “Loke Hong Chen” with mobile #”0 16-665 5266” with OCBC account number “7302550795“. 

Paid for item and seller went silent ... blocked my mobile #.

Moderators - pls move if this post is not to be in this thread, tq.

Thanks, wingman. Merged this into the common thread of Buyer/Seller BEWARE Scenarios.
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Post by meraias Wed Jun 30, 2021 11:35 pm

Guys,
Same scammer still lurking around! this time in the WTB section.

MCO is a good time for them to act.

NAME:

Peter Loh Kim Hee (most likely his grand pa's bank account or something)
Bank Acccount
MAYBANK
101085050015

Telephone:
0166655266 (Just found out that someone posted the same number in the forum after the scam)
0172552463
0166359183

Some details about the scam:

This fella contacted me after he saw my WTB advertisement of an svs sb1000 sub

I spoke to him over the phone, he spoke like an audio enthusiast, made up stories that sounds real.
DEFINITELY CHINESE, fluent in both chinese and english

He sent me an svs sub photo, he said he had 2 of them. 
I did some googling, and found the same photo on an expired UK audio mart advertisement  Buyer/Seller BEWARE Scenarios 1f494 

also told me he would pay a RM300 insured DHL jumbo boxed extra padding shipping for me, and he even sent me a blurry DHL generated pickup email "proof".  No

which contains the following address:
8 Jalan Kingley's 2A
Kingsley's Hills
46570 Subang Jaya
Selangor

Googled the address, couldnt find Jalan Kingley having 2A road  scratch 


Be careful everyone, google is your best friend.

do a few back ground checks for your safety if in doubt, every info can be googled.

stay safe everyone.

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