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Post by chieng90 Sat Apr 11, 2009 4:03 pm

Hi Alvin,
Most important you didn't tell us your room size.
If small, why don't you go to take a listen Logictech Z5500?check out with user's review.

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Post by alvincks Sat Apr 11, 2009 8:57 pm

Hey All,

Just came back from KL, managed to shop CMY, Desa Home and Hifi Shop next to Desa home in lowyat...

i have tested the Wharfedale diamond 9.1, be honest ...i feel dissadpointed Sad ...hmm, i don feel good may be it doesn't have any base ...and i found i actually prefer sound with base ...then the seller, put in PolkAudio bookshelf speaker, and it is much better(can hear some base output) ....but compare to Mission from next shop(anyone know the name?) of Desa home, i think i prefer the mission speaker (e30)....the sound suit me (no sure is bcoz the song)....but it is about 1800RM ....Mission E32 even better and it cost around 2600RM ...damn .....Sad

I think i should plan for Floorstand speaker instead of bookshelf since the price are almost same ...guess i can get the good floorstand pair around 1500RM ?

and also, i think put in Sub is a MUST ....coz i love boom boom sound while watching movie even listen music feel much better....

My god, i think i should try to stop my interest .....wait until July for AV show for better deal ? at least i can save more now ....

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Post by fizi Sun Apr 12, 2009 1:34 pm

alvin..heehheehe Smile
u look so frust..relax bro stay cool..to purchase new good speaker its
expensive laa..they test the speaker using what amplifier AV amp
or integrated(music)?? to watch movie subwoofer is a
must..bookshelf must use together with subwoofer,,if not better watch
movie with compact system from sony,aiwa or pioneer..u purchase the
amplifier already o not??

try to look used bookshelf speaker w subwoofer,,if u buy floorstand with entry level amplifier also no BASS bro!!!
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Post by alvincks Sun Apr 12, 2009 4:59 pm

Desa home tried with Cambrige intergrate amp and also Marantz 4002, If not mistaken Intergrate amp do not support subwoofer right ? when the seller tested with Marantz amp with polkAudio bookshelf speaker together with subwoofer(not sure how to spell, the name quite long and contain "van" or "vun" in the middle if not mistaken) ...

Desa home seller told me Pionner and yamaha amp mainly for movie and i should go for Marantz/Onkyo, not sure he got bluff me ....

i still haven't get the amp yet ......guess need to postpone the plan .....floorstand no good ? i thought it is better than bookshelf ....

one question, i went for many shop, ppl said mission speaker not good anymore , is that true ....i feel the bookshelf speaker are good.

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Post by fizi Sun Apr 12, 2009 8:56 pm

alvin..yes integrated amp dont have subwoofer conection..marantz 4002 is AV amplifier thats y got subwoofer conection..

bookshelf/floorstand
if using integrated amp(music) with low watts,,to hear the bass recomendation used bookshelf
if using av amplifier(movie) with low watts,,to hear the bass--recomendation used bookshelf together with subwoofer

if ur room normal size n not to big,,bookshelf size is good
already..entry level amplifier usualy low watt n if u using floorstand
u cant get the good impact of the speaker..

Is nothing wrong about the mission speaker the speaker matching with amplifier is more important..
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Post by alvincks Sun Apr 12, 2009 9:01 pm

My Living hall size = 6220 height * 4400 Wide, forgive me as i donno how to convert it to feet, i read it on my house floor plan ...

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Post by fizi Sun Apr 12, 2009 9:14 pm

alvin i also dont no 6220 or 4400 in inches/centimeter/meter??
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Post by alvincks Sun Apr 12, 2009 9:27 pm

Oh ....i guess is cm or inch, not really sure , it written in the floor plan and doesn't mention under what measurement....my house is 24x75 ...

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Post by fizi Sun Apr 12, 2009 9:43 pm

ok,1st step-if u insist new amplifier from ur budget i think only can
purchase entry level marantz,pioneer,onkyo(low watts) if not buy good
used amplifier with medium watts(80-100
2nd-purchase bookshelf speaker together with subwoofer
(ur living hall is quite normal size)
3rd-purchase suround together with center speaker
(if posible buy same model with front speaker to achieve same frequency
n good/balance sound) or if u have more budget used ur front
speaker(bookshelf) to be suround and buy new floorstand for u front

lastly--upgrade cable,filter and etc..etc..etc

this is my opinion
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Post by mustafa Sun Apr 12, 2009 11:28 pm

do not confuse with the wattage... 100w doesnt means better than 70w.
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Post by alvincks Mon Apr 13, 2009 10:49 pm

Guys, finally bought the pioneer amplifier ..

http://www.pioneer.eu/eur/products/42/98/VSX-818V-S/review.html

i bought it becoz it is new and price is too good to pull down the offer .....

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Post by fizi Mon Apr 13, 2009 11:28 pm

at last...good start r u bought from johor guy..?
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Post by alvincks Tue Apr 14, 2009 6:35 am

Yes Fizi, i bought it from Johor guy ...but i haven't test it yet .....since i hv no speaker

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Post by alvincks Tue Apr 14, 2009 6:37 am

if anyone interest to get , it still left 2 units ...price is 700RM , new set from box

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Post by mustafa Tue Apr 14, 2009 8:38 am

congratulations!
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Post by alvincks Tue Apr 14, 2009 4:28 pm

Thanks Mustafa...

my next step is looking for speaker to fit to this amp

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Post by dheensay Tue Apr 14, 2009 5:23 pm

Just my 55cents :

Maybe you can get yourself a nice pair of Epos M5 like mine. It is an absolute ace thru the midband, but lacks bass. Add a sub and you should be on the right road to rich sounds.

Only concern is that the epos are 4ohm....

And then, get some epos m12.2 later, and throw the m5 round back as sats, or move them to a dedicated hifi system. Maan, there is just so much that can be done once you start on the right foot.... Smile

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Post by alvincks Tue Apr 14, 2009 6:02 pm

what means by sats ?

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Post by mustafa Tue Apr 14, 2009 7:25 pm

alvin, if not mistaken your budget was 2k, so u have another 1.3k which if enough for a pair of entry level bookshelf like wharfedale, mission, mordaunt-short etc. go n test yourself. normally people will recommend on what they are using.
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Post by alvincks Tue Apr 14, 2009 9:50 pm

Hi All sifu,

below are the detail of my amp , can someone let me know how i can look for suitable speaker ? what are the spec required to suit my amp ?

Output Power per Channel 130W


  • Impedance at Output Level 8Ω


  • Number of Channels 5


  • Signal / Noise Ratio 88 / 64 db


  • Input Connections 2 x HDMI, 3 x component video, 4 x composite, 2 x digital optical, 1 x digital coaxial, 5.1 x multi-channel (DVD), 1 x USB host, 1 x iPod Digital via USB



  • Power output per channel 110W


  • Condition 1kHz, 1% THD, 8Ω


  • Rated Power Output 130W per channel


  • Input (Sensitivity/Imp.): LINE 335 mV / 47kΩ


  • Frequency Response: LINE 5 Hz to 100 000 Hz


  • Signal-to-Noise Ratio: LINE (DIN) 88/64 dB


  • Power Requirements AC 220 - 230 V / 50/60 Hz

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    Post by hazy Tue Apr 14, 2009 11:16 pm

    What a Face
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    Post by fizi Wed Apr 15, 2009 1:24 am

    alvincks wrote:what means by sats ?

    Hi alvin..SATS means satelite speaker or suround..

    Dont worry alvin take ur time all product range like wharfedale,mordaunt short,mission is easy to drive from ur amplifier only thing my advise try to purchase bookshelf speaker n subwoofer

    Very Happy Very Happy
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    Post by fizi Wed Apr 15, 2009 2:26 am

    alvin for info..
    Bookshelf-Wharfedale pro Pi-10 RM800---0124293315 Question
    Bookshelf-B&W DM601 RM690---0127108171 Cool
    Bookshelf with center speaker-Monitor Audio Bronze B2 and Monitor Audio Bronze Center both for RM1200---0125579810 Cool Smile

    Floorstand-Wharfedale 8.4 RM850---0177892484 Smile
    Floorstand-Mission M33i RM800---our member vunjick1 Smile
    Good luck..


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    Post by dheensay Wed Apr 15, 2009 9:42 am

    Alvin,
    The MA bronze series, KEF Cresta and Mission (M range???) are all decent and they are available in both individual and complete sets. This of course means that you dont have to fork out a chunk of money at once, but can buy and upgrade slowly...

    Fizi has put 2 smiley faces next to the MA BR2, and i agree Smile Its good bang for the buck, and looks better than KEF or Wharfs etc....You can upgrade the fronts to MA BR5 floorstanders later, and move the BR2s to the rear.

    Smile

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    Post by Lamkochai Wed Apr 15, 2009 8:16 pm

    hihi. just to clarify. the monitor audio ad was put up by me. its not the newer br2 but the older bronze b2 (3 years old). with 1.3k theres alot of suitable speaker u can buy. do your own audition before buying so that you wont regret.

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    Post by alvincks Wed Apr 15, 2009 9:57 pm

    Oh .....you guy are so kind to help me here ...and also poison me so much Smile

    I believe this thread will be a good reference for those newbie like me in anytime ...

    By the way, before jump to get speaker ...

    can i know what are the below means and what usage of it in speaker spec, what are the common range ?

    - Sensitivity
    - Frequency response
    - Crossover frequency
    - Drivers
    - Impedance

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    Post by fizi Thu Apr 16, 2009 3:51 pm

    alvin..try to look for 88db n above the speaker easy to drive...other then that quite difficult to explain in details bcoz is involved personal views n maybe all spec u ask is for hi end set up that required full details..
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    Post by Lamkochai Thu Apr 16, 2009 6:07 pm

    i rather prefer not to buy my speakers based on those stats. I will bring my amp to test the speakers myself and judge it by my ears. My previous proac studio 125 with sensitivity of 88db doesnt sound louder than my current harbeth speakers which is only rated at 85db.

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    Post by alvincks Thu Apr 16, 2009 9:15 pm

    Thanks Guys...

    can i know what are the good sub i can get within 1k ?

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    Post by fizi Fri Apr 24, 2009 11:54 am

    hi alvin how r u..r u already find the suitable speaker..? for me just received USHER X-719 n i really luv it
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    Post by alvincks Sun Apr 26, 2009 10:42 pm

    Hey guys,

    i got the 5.1 now ...busying on setup Smile

    Floorstand = MS Avant 914i
    Surround = MS Avant 902i
    Subwoofer = Whafedale W210
    Center speaker = Whafedale (forgot which model, update later)

    this set seem good for music listening, doesn't feel great on movie ...

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    Post by Hi-Fi 4 Sale Sun Apr 26, 2009 10:50 pm

    alvincks wrote:Hey guys,

    i got the 5.1 now ...busying on setup Smile

    Floorstand = MS Avant 914i
    Surround = MS Avant 902i
    Subwoofer = Whafedale W210
    Center speaker = Whafedale (forgot which model, update later)

    this set seem good for music listening, doesn't feel great on movie ...

    Make some adjustments to the speaker distance/time alignment, channel balance as well as the subwoofer crossover point. You should be almost there once these settings are properly calibrated. Smile
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    Post by fizi Sun Apr 26, 2009 11:47 pm

    congrats... Very Happy
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    Post by jemmi Tue Apr 28, 2009 1:54 pm

    Hi Alvin,
    Where you bought the MS speaker, new or used?
    I want to audition MS Mezzo, where could I refer it in Klang Valley?

    Anyway your MS combo is good. You need good cable or go DIY cable like me, using CANARE DIY interconnect & supra DIY speaker cable?
    If you have time make DIY cat 6 or cat 5 interconnect & speaker cable (use silver solder), very cheap & very good.

    The most important is room treatment & position your equipment set in equal place.
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    Post by peter32 Tue Apr 28, 2009 8:43 pm

    jemmi, mind sharing the technique of making cat5 speaker cable? In due time I will need a lengthy cable for surround speakers. Need to cut cost. I already have silver solder and staff.

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    Post by alvincks Wed Apr 29, 2009 8:38 pm

    Hi Jemmi,

    You can test MS Mezzo in amcorp mall - Acoustics System ...same floor as A/L

    i bought all new set

    DIY cable ? do you means those cable connect at the back of speaker ? Sorry , a bit dump here Smile

    If you like MS Mezzo, don forget to test Quad speaker also ....

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    Post by opjust Tue May 11, 2010 1:07 pm

    this thread is really2 useful for a newbie.. tks a lot for sharing.. n alvin enjoy ur new HT set up... Smile

    hmm.. now I know where to start first... one question from me if TS don't mind... is there any much different between TruHD audio n normal one?

    What is the cheapest solution for TruHD audio in term of budget..

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