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Arcam rDAC vs MF M1 DAC

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Arcam rDAC vs MF M1 DAC

Post by elhefe on Thu Oct 21, 2010 11:55 am

Could not wait till weekend and since I am still jetlagged from the trip. Here goes my review of 1 hour listening to janet seidl, celine dion and metallica black on rdac after running in for 24 hrs.

Set up used:

1. MF xray v3 to rdac via coaxial
2. Marantz CD6000 to rdac via coaxial
3. Sony MD player to rdac via optical

Repeated the above with M1 DAC.

Coaxial and optical cable used - QED
IC used from dac to amp - QED

So the only variable in any set up above is the dac itself.

First 10 minutes with celine dion - Big contender to M1

Spacious and airy soundstage. Detailed stereo imaging with defined bass but a bit harsh on the high pitch vocals.

Switched to metallica enter sandman. Solid bass. Very convincing guitar riffs can be heard.

Overall, it can match M1 in terms of soundstaging but unbalanced with treble or high pitched vocals.

Swicthed to MD via optical. Used Gypsy Kings version of Hotel California. Unfortunately, rDac is no match to the M1. maybe because of the upsampling done by M1. The rdac produced a muffled sound. Only listened for 3 mins.

Now the more unfortunate review. The rdac is giving me a cracking sound on my right speakers in between songs when the CDP is changing track. I have changed the IC, coax and even tried it on optical but the cracking sound is still there. Very dissapointed on this. Even tried changing the input from aux 1 to aux 2.

Build wise, of course the M1 has a better and solid finish. Even power supply is much better. The input switch on the rdac is also a bit noisy compared to M1 silent unit. However it does cost 100 pounds more than rdac.

So there you go. 1 hr review of rdac unit. Given the head on challenge with M1, i must say M1 has the better edge.

I will however try the rdac with airport express this weekend.

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Source(s): ClearAudio TT, MF M1 (CDT, DAC, CLiC, HPA, ViNL), SONY MD, ONKYO tape deck, Wadia 170i
Amplification: MF M6i Integrated Amp, M1 PWR Power Amp
Speakers: ProAc Response D18

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Re: Arcam rDAC vs MF M1 DAC

Post by elhefe on Sun Oct 24, 2010 12:19 am

As I am still curious on why the cracking sound, I brought down the rdac and marantz player downstairs and connect it to my yamaha av amp. Same thing. I let it run for 24 hours. Still producing the cracking sound. The sound is more evident when I physically change the track compared to letting the cd progresses to the next track on its own.

I then switched off the rdac for 24 hrs, and voila today the sound dissapeared. Very odd. Will hook up airport express tomorrow.

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Amplification: MF M6i Integrated Amp, M1 PWR Power Amp
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Post by flyfly on Sun Oct 24, 2010 11:38 am

Good effort Idea

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Re: Arcam rDAC vs MF M1 DAC

Post by elhefe on Sun Oct 24, 2010 5:26 pm

Yes sometimes the simplest thing can do wonders hehhe. Maybe because I had too many wires crossing each other on the main hifi creatung this cracking sound.

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Re: Arcam rDAC vs MF M1 DAC

Post by elhefe on Mon Oct 25, 2010 12:09 am

Spent the whole sunday streaming music via airport express into rdac and feed through my yamaha av amp. Didn bother to hook it up to my main system. Using target optical cable.
First few songs by foo fighters sounded heavy on bass. Then tried vocals with sarah brightman and andrea bocelli. Wow that was sweet and uplifting experience. Vocals were bold and the rdac brought out the atmospshere of being upfront. Point to note, no effects were run on the yamaha and treble and bass settings were on flat.

All sources above were apple lossless files.

Running cd quality mp3 files, not much different can be heard compared to the above.

Overall I would still say rdac is a fine buy but will restrict it for airport express and marantz cd player on the 2nd system.

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Re: Arcam rDAC vs MF M1 DAC

Post by Hzarz Kar on Tue Oct 26, 2010 11:33 am

Thanks for the impressions! Very interesting.

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Re: Arcam rDAC vs MF M1 DAC

Post by KenZen on Fri Oct 29, 2010 12:14 am

elhefe, maybe you need more burn in for the rDAC? My friend had to burn in his Audio-GD NFB-1 DAC for more than 200 hours before it started to open up.

Have you tried using audiophile grade power cords to improve your sound? When we went to collect the NFB-1 DAC, it was being demoed using a higher grade power cord (not the thin stock cable). After more than 1 hour of listening, the seller then swap in the Wireworld Stratus and the improvement was VERY apparent. Better clarity, detail, smoother mid and much more defined and extended bass. It even sounded louder!

BTW, very good effort on the comparison! Thanks for sharing.

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Re: Arcam rDAC vs MF M1 DAC

Post by elhefe on Fri Oct 29, 2010 12:48 am

Kenzen,

Already more than 200 hours. I have been running the unit continuously since 20th Oct till eeeerrr today and still running (apart from the few hours shut down due to the cracking sound). I left it running eventhough I am in Vietnam for a business trip since Tuesday. Will be back tomorrow. So see how the sound improve or not.

As for the Wireworld Stratus, is it for an 6 V DC requirement?

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Re: Arcam rDAC vs MF M1 DAC

Post by KenZen on Mon Nov 01, 2010 3:54 pm

The Stratus tested was a US version plug to IEC. It was connected from a Richard Gray power conditioner to the IEC socket on the DAC's separate power supply.

I gather that means the rdac uses one of those switching power supply like a laptop power adapter? Is it using a standard IEC power cord or it's a fixed unit?

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