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Post by AwesomeSound on Thu Aug 06, 2015 7:59 am

Thank you for sharing your experience. I wonder how we can protect ourselves when situations like these can potentially happen.

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Post by mike67 on Thu Aug 06, 2015 8:45 am

Hi members,
myself had similar case about 2 years ago.
seller mention he has this item for sale at very low attractive price.
goods are ready to ship out from home, await payment in only.
but the address given was a bit strange, as the road name does'nt co-inside with the town he stay. upon further inquiries he finally got missing in action.
- would suggest members to counter check seller residing address so we can double     check.
- proceed with caution any item with very attractive low price
- check with local territory members on the seller given address
- h/phone numbers sometimes can give a hint whether seller is residing in the 
  location, eg, Kuching/ Sarawak seller usually with  h/p as 01x-8xxxxxx 
- proceed with caution if seller is new member with no track record

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Post by mofaz on Thu Aug 06, 2015 4:00 pm

World full of con person big and small ...

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Post by iwing88 on Thu Aug 06, 2015 4:34 pm

better to COD.
thanks for the information about the con man.
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Post by Mian on Thu Aug 06, 2015 7:24 pm

Sorry to hear that Sad
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Post by gettindirty on Thu Aug 06, 2015 10:19 pm

Sorry thats happen to u but also thank you for the important information. Will b more careful from now on. Take good care...

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Post by khthen on Fri Aug 07, 2015 12:53 am

bro, hope this person realize his mistake and return your money

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Post by Hi-Fi 4 Sale on Fri Aug 07, 2015 1:44 am

edddddy21 wrote:Dear All,

Please be informed that there is a conman preying on us in HiFi4Sale. I was cheated when I advertised in the WTB section. He speaks very politely and seems to know a lot about the item which he's selling. In my case, it was a Rythmik LV12S subwoofer. He approached me via Whatsapp, used a mobile number not belonging to him, sent me photos that are not cut and paste from the internet, asked me to pay to another person's bank account, and even gave me a tracking number from the point of origin (in my case, Kuching). After I completed payment, he informed me that he's travelling with his family and will only be back the following week. He said any issues can be resolved once he's back (yeah right). He's not reachable after that... 

Interestingly, he did mention that he's also having a Pioneer 1122k and Mordaunt Short Mezzo 2 for sale. Not sure if he's got some photos in place to trick his next victim. The DiGi number he used was: +6011 3192 8203. He called himself Mat (chinese fella).

All these are carefully planned to trick us. Just be careful if you're buying without the chance of inspecting the actual item. 

Ed

Do you have his H4S username, or was all correspondence done via the phone only?
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Post by edddddy21 on Fri Aug 07, 2015 10:20 am

Unfortunately via handphone and Whatsapp...

As attached are some of the screenshots from Whatsapp. 

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Post by andlee2k on Mon Aug 10, 2015 4:55 pm

I hate to add some smart -alec precaution. But maybe in this case where got original box, surely maybe you can ask, to confirm item genuine, to pay him RM50 first- for him to send you the Instruction Manual, or even the Receipt first. Then only the completed delivery of the sub. Surely he can send you straight away, either the Guarantee Card, Instruction Manual immediately, else he can never do it. It's not easy to get hold of - especially Warranty Card. sine he said bought from "Sound Fusion".

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Post by andlee2k on Mon Aug 10, 2015 4:56 pm

The Warranty Card with Sound Fusion chop (rubber stamp).

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Post by cshoes on Tue Aug 11, 2015 3:23 am

Dear HIFI4SALE,

Appreciate for your action to move this post to General (non-equipment) Discussion. Thank you.

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Post by chrischin on Wed Oct 17, 2018 7:49 pm

dear hifi4sale member 
 a scammer from singapore phone number +65xxxx8113
always ask for confirm deal reserved ,but when ask for deposit
will reply "i prefer cod"refuse to pay advance ,if anyone make a 
phone deal(without paying any deposit)this gay :scratch:will tell when
and when................maybe hundred year later,once you sold to other
this gay scratch will told "we make a deal before,why now sold to other",
think many member also got happen like this.
to a busy gay in singapore with lol!

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Post by jakecmy on Wed Mar 04, 2020 10:34 am

Scrammer - https://www.hifi4sale.net/spa/cyfoo

He/she downloaded all the photos from

ukaudiomar, sg.carousel....


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Post by Ryanz on Thu Mar 12, 2020 6:58 pm

Dear friend please be aware of this scammer as he claim to be Dylan with contact number 0173861143

Account 1.
cimb account : 8009810402
name : EK Light Pro Enterprise

Account 2.
hlb account : 20400016728
name : EK Light Pro Enterprise

Account 3. 
maybank account : 512334324625
name :  Lim Wei Chieh
name EK Light Pro Enterprise

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Post by Hi-Fi 4 Sale on Thu Mar 12, 2020 7:04 pm

Ryanz wrote:Dear friend please be aware of this scammer as he claim to be Dylan with contact number 0173861143

Account 1.
cimb account : 8009810402
name : EK Light Pro Enterprise

Account 2.
hlb account : 20400016728
name : EK Light Pro Enterprise

Account 3. 
maybank account : 512334324625
name :  Lim Wei Chieh
name EK Light Pro Enterprise

Thanks for the heads-up, Ryanz.
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Post by kjagan on Tue Mar 17, 2020 9:48 am

I was also cheated by this person for a value of 1.5K for purchasing the Cambridge CXA60 used amplifier. The account number and name used for the transfer are as below. The post was posted by the name CYFOO 0n 26 Feb 2020Known or Suspected Fraudsters/Con-Artists in the Hi-Fi Marketplace - Please Report Here - Page 3 Cheat110


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Post by kjagan on Tue Mar 17, 2020 9:52 am

THe other account number used is as below.  The post was posted by the name CYFOO 0n 26 Feb 2020

Lim Wei Chieh
CIMB
512334324625
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Post by AustinHeights on Tue Mar 31, 2020 8:51 am

Hi, just to share, received whatsapp msg from +6 017 3861143 offering some old JBL speakers model which I suspected a scammer 

- claimed he was referred by a local 2nd hand retailer to contact me if I am interested in his pair of JBL 4312
- switched to say it was typo error when I replied I was looking for 4410 or 4412, he actually meant JBL 4412, explained that he was not familiar with HIFI, then attached a photo of JBL 4412A packing boxes
- I told him, no not the A version, I wanted original JBL 4412
- He asked, what's A version, fake?
- I explained to him A version didn't have mid/high frequency level control & i attached a photo from web showing the mid/high frequency level control on original JBL 4412
- He replied he found though packing box printed 4412A, the speakers inside were actually 4412 & attached a photo of the speakers showing his claimed 
- I sceptical on his claimed & verified the 2 photos (4412A packing box & 4412 speakers photos) that he sent me
- Though I couldn't find exact same photos from web, I noticed a very alike photo of the 4412A packing box in web which was posted in an ad at Hifishark.com
- I suspect he had use this same photo, enlarged the image to cover up the venue background where the packing box photo were taken, but cosmetic dents on packing box were exactly at same spots between the photo I found in the ad at Hifishark.com 
- Thus I stopped communicating with him & blocked his contact in my ph 

Minutes later, received new whatsapp from +6 019 8065526 offering a pair of JBL 4410 for sale, I believe it's from the same person, I didn't respond at all to this 4410 offer 

Thank you for reading.

PS: If you like to view the whatsapp conversation I had with him, I can be contacted at +65 98384219

Regards, 
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Post by Hifi Freak on Thu Apr 16, 2020 9:15 am

Allen, yes a real scammer.  I have dealt with the same person (019-8065526), pretending to be in Melaka, father passed away and inherited millions, including exotic hifi stuffs which he has to sell at crazy cheap price.  Offered free shipping thru DHL, refused face-to-face interaction.

Once blocked by hifi4sale admin, he will create new userid in hifi4sale, switching between the 2 phones.  Now he does not advertise anymore, but selectively targets hifi4sale users through our phone numbers published in WTS or WTB.

He asks buyers to pay deposit into his business accounts; 2 accounts so far:

1) Maybank 557120058385, company account for Moonlight Spirit Enterprise

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2) CIMB 8009897831, company account for Versie Sport Trading, a company which is technically expired (business termination letter submitted to SSM), but the CIMB biz account is still active.  Most likely the business owner is the spouse / girlfriend / partner of the main scammer.

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I published this information since I am a victim and unable to get back my deposit.  Pursuing legal options now - police report made, Consumer Tribunal claim made, to be followed by filing a claim in small claims Court.  I am not disclosing my real name for security reasons.

To the SCAMMER:  BEWARE, we know who you are.

Regards.

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Post by Hi-Fi 4 Sale on Sun Apr 19, 2020 1:02 pm

Thanks, AustinHeights and Hifi Freak for these new details. We have merged your posts into this running topic.

Scam alert is high these days. While we cannot be sure, these few avenues point to the same source.

As usual, the buyer beware (caveat emptor) rule applies. If it sounds too good to be true, then it probably is. Please don't trade your instincts for a 'deal'.

May we also add that for those of us in Malaysia, may you stay safe and stay home, during this MCO period.
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Post by jaar on Fri Aug 07, 2020 11:36 am

Dear all

I am embarrassed to say that I got scammed recently.  Posted a WTB speaker cable and received a few messages from people.  Was interested in this guys product.  Below was the details i had:

Name : Wai Lian
MBB : 1121 1129 8538

He said that he stays in Taiping and can courier the item.  I am very cautious kind of guy but he sounded genuine and knows Hifi and shops etc.  I was taken and said that i can transfer RM500 first and the remaining once i receive the item.  The moment transfer was done. He wanted to sell me more stuffs but i said lets do 1 item at a time.  He still pushed and that was when i thought this was something different.  The next day i cant sent messages to him already.

Please be aware as now scammers are cleverer and knows the target weaknesses.

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Post by Hifi Freak on Thu Aug 13, 2020 8:07 pm

Dear Jaar, 

It sounds like the same person who scammed me.  Please share the phone number being used now by this scammer.  

The Maybank account owner name seems very weird: New Wai Lian OR

Is there such a surname "New"?  How can Maybank allows such account to be opened?

Thanks.

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Post by jaar on Sat Aug 15, 2020 1:27 pm

Hi

For sure its a scam.  The person no longer uses the mobile number.  I think its a syndicate as like you said, which bank would allow the name New Wai Lian.

The mobile number is 019-453 0413.

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Post by hoyhoysum on Thu Oct 15, 2020 12:46 am

Maybe HIfi4 sale should come out with marking for verified member e.g. trusted seller and those not verified better COD.
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Post by flo1984 on Thu Oct 15, 2020 5:06 pm

THE FOLLOWINGS USERS ARE SCAMMERS : gearpage and Taiwc92 .DO NOT DEAL WITH THEM .Thank you

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Post by flatliner2009 on Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:04 pm

So is this scammer Micheal Kaevli Anak Jackson. 
Hifi4sale user mikeylvi. Maybank account 5644 7261 2533 (Versue Sport Trading). I got conned RM7K!

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Post by cyh on Fri Oct 16, 2020 6:25 pm

Got account number, can report police or not? 7k a lot of money bro
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Post by mofaz on Fri Oct 16, 2020 9:37 pm

Can tell us what happened ? So that we can learn not to make same mistake ?

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Post by Hi-Fi 4 Sale on Sat Oct 17, 2020 10:29 am

Merged all similar posts into this topic.

Also, please take care and stay safe during this tough period.
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Post by Hi-Fi 4 Sale on Sat Oct 17, 2020 10:41 am

hoyhoysum wrote:Maybe HIfi4 sale should come out with marking for verified member e.g. trusted seller and those not verified better COD.

While this verification exercise would be desirable, it is not possible. We as a forum are not privy to the actual transactions, and hence will not have sufficient data to validate any buyer or seller.

The concept of 'buyer beware' and community feedback still applies.
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