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Post by dylan Sun May 02, 2010 2:00 am

most of info I found said is NAD C525BEE.

friend recommend me Marantz CDP, any advise?

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Post by arremie Sun May 02, 2010 10:59 pm

or u can go with the new NAD C545BEE Best match CDP with NAD C325BEE? Icon_smile
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Post by dylan Mon May 03, 2010 12:39 pm

means NAD still prefer match NAD, rite?

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Post by llsaw Mon May 03, 2010 1:54 pm

I have a 6 month old Rega Saturn for sale that is guaranteed to run rings around any new Marantz below RM8K to my ears*. Pls do IM me personally if interested..

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Post by wingman Mon May 03, 2010 2:16 pm

At times a mix and match would derive a variable sonic, its an individual taste.

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Post by joydivision Mon May 03, 2010 2:27 pm

Although I'm not a big fan of Marantz cdp after having owned a cdp and int. amp before, I can't say any Marantz below 8k cdp sounds not as good compared to another particular cdp. Best match CDP with NAD C325BEE? Icon_idea
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Post by joydivision Mon May 03, 2010 2:29 pm

Speaking of which, I was thinking about purchasing the NAD325BEE a month ago.

Dylan, do you mind letting me know the sound characteristics of the amp?
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Post by llsaw Mon May 03, 2010 5:03 pm

joydivision wrote:Although I'm not a big fan of Marantz cdp after having owned a cdp and int. amp before, I can't say any Marantz below 8k cdp sounds not as good compared to another particular cdp. Best match CDP with NAD C325BEE? Icon_idea

I have added the disclaimer apparently as this is per individual taste Best match CDP with NAD C325BEE? Icon_lol Apologize if I offended any Marantz fans..

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Post by arremie Mon May 03, 2010 5:52 pm

So far I have owned 2 NAD (515BEE and 545BEE) and 2 Marantz (6002 and 6003). They are all good entry levels but my personal preference still with the NAD.

Unlike Marantz, NAD need a bit of running time to sound like "NAD" so be patience if you don't get what you expect the first time. I knocked my head 1st time I listen to 545BEE but after 50 hours, it is the *best sounding among those 4.

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Post by mugenfoo Mon May 03, 2010 6:11 pm

i'd vote for NAD as well .... just personal preference.
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Post by dylan Mon May 03, 2010 8:53 pm

joydivision wrote:Speaking of which, I was thinking about purchasing the NAD325BEE a month ago.

Dylan, do you mind letting me know the sound characteristics of the amp?

i prefer vocal and musical, new age and classical. I found NAD is not so much for pop music, I play Chihiro Onitsuka on it and found the song i love become very disturbing and noisy. haha. maybe it coz by panny dvdp i using now.

but for those audiophile CD, like Emi Fujita and remaster old chinese song, Tai Chin etc, it sound great, warm. I play it with PSB B1 anyway.

Only reason I try to get NAD cdp is also both of them so work like no one else. haha.

now i hav new concern, shd I get 24bit CDP or 20bit?

to other sifu, my budget is within 1k top only. coz my ear cant different 1k cdp to 5k cdp yet. haha

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Post by joydivision Mon May 03, 2010 10:50 pm

Dylan, thanks for your insight. Yup, hopefully when I get back to KL, the NAD amp is still available. Good luck in your search. Best match CDP with NAD C325BEE? Alien
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Post by wingman Mon May 03, 2010 11:00 pm

NAD CDP = Warm Sonics

Marantz CDP = Funky / Jazzy Sonics

Cambridge Audio = Punchie Sonics

My taste would be for a NAD, as I am also an owner of a CDP NAD502 driven by a NAD3020.

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Post by arremie Mon May 03, 2010 11:39 pm

Lots of NAD's fan here. Now I'm curious how good the sound will be with NAD CDP + Tube preamp + NAD power amp.

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Post by wingman Tue May 04, 2010 6:27 am

arremie wrote:Lots of NAD's fan here. Now I'm curious how good the sound will be with NAD CDP + Tube preamp + NAD power amp.

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Lethal..... sonically Best match CDP with NAD C325BEE? Icon_biggrin and financially Best match CDP with NAD C325BEE? Icon_twisted Best match CDP with NAD C325BEE? Icon_question

Some of the audio kaki's ( Best match CDP with NAD C325BEE? Icon_idea )that I had pleasure meeting up were recommending a similar setup but not by make.

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Post by Laming Tue May 04, 2010 7:47 am

Hi..
I had pioneer A400 (enemy of audiolab 8000A.. Best match CDP with NAD C325BEE? Icon_smile ), out of curiosity..is it NAD cdp can match with it?
Looking for new/used cdp now...instead of using pioneer dvd 610 (got SACD...don't know what is means..guess related to cd music.. Best match CDP with NAD C325BEE? Icon_biggrin ) for music purpose..

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Post by llsaw Tue May 04, 2010 8:06 am

dylan wrote:
i prefer vocal and musical, new age and classical. I found NAD is not so much for pop music, I play Chihiro Onitsuka on it and found the song i love become very disturbing and noisy. haha. maybe it coz by panny dvdp i using now.

but for those audiophile CD, like Emi Fujita and remaster old chinese song, Tai Chin etc, it sound great, warm. I play it with PSB B1 anyway.

Only reason I try to get NAD cdp is also both of them so work like no one else. haha.

now i hav new concern, shd I get 24bit CDP or 20bit?

to other sifu, my budget is within 1k top only. coz my ear cant different 1k cdp to 5k cdp yet. haha

Honestly the bits don't really matter that much as there are other equally important factors such as power supply, circuit path whether single dac or multiple configuration, etc. Trust your ears more.

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Post by dylan Tue May 04, 2010 12:38 pm

HDCD (20bit) is sure detail than normal CD (16bit), never try SACD.

when my Marantz SR3001 have red HDCD logo on, the sound will go brighter. haha

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Post by dylan Tue May 18, 2010 2:58 pm

found a new NAD C521BEE for rm950. wat do guys think? shd the search continue or end here?

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Post by arremie Tue May 18, 2010 4:00 pm

Buy and try la. If your ears agreed then your search can stop for a while Best match CDP with NAD C325BEE? Icon_razz
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Post by mpyw Wed May 19, 2010 5:30 pm

tested the NAD CD player with a VTL amp to drive the ELAC 248 just now......I din know the model no as the objective is to listen to the ELAC

jaw dropping sound even the 248 are new and not run in yet....the moment the singer starts to sing, it got my attention and I stop reading the mag on some Yamaha's in A&L....

Truly dynamic, crystal clear & the bass are awesome for such a slim tower....

but when switch to try the 5.1 BD, they use the Yamaha 1065 to drive it....the sound instantly become thin and the dynamics are not there, so the ELAC will need a power amp to drive it's potential out

also, the price also jaw dropping lar :p

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Post by htkaki Wed May 19, 2010 11:04 pm

dylan wrote:found a new NAD C521BEE for rm950. wat do guys think? shd the search continue or end here?
I believe it is well suited for your amp since it is also NAD. Then again, your ears are the best judges here.

Taukeh mpyw, upgrade itch is here again? Best match CDP with NAD C325BEE? Icon_biggrin
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Post by dylan Thu May 20, 2010 12:41 pm

hi guys, just found C521 have problem with CDR.. probably will go for C525BEE for rm1180.

dilemma is new release C515BEE also around this price only. C525BEE shd be at least 5 years out from factory liao, even it is NEW in store.

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Post by arremie Thu May 20, 2010 1:21 pm

Spend a bit more and get 545BEE. U won't regret but put in mind unlike 515, this 545 need a bit of time to sound good. Pretty weird but yeah it is what it is.
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Post by dylan Thu May 20, 2010 5:48 pm

taiko arremie, 545 is rm1.8+ lar... way out of range.

i heard there is a 100/10 rule in HIFI world, which mean 100% additional cost only contribute 10% listening improvement.

anyone agree?

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Post by mugenfoo Thu May 20, 2010 7:29 pm

dylan wrote:taiko arremie, 545 is rm1.8+ lar... way out of range.

i heard there is a 100/10 rule in HIFI world, which mean 100% additional cost only contribute 10% listening improvement.

anyone agree?

Think of it as an S-curve....
(just choosing numbers arbitrarily here as an example)

1. from a RM500 mini compo system to a RM 2K system .. u get fundamental improvements ...

2. From a RM 2K system to a RM 20K system... very BIG improvements.

3. Going from RM20K to RM100K, Jaw dropping heart pounding MASSIVE improvements.

4. RM100K -> RM200K , ok, mebbe not so much relative improvement but still significant.

5. Rm200K -> RM500K ... Errr... got improvement lah, should be ... but not really the jaw-dropping kind... maybe just a raised eyebrow or two.

6. RM500K ->RM1Mil systems .... i would say, you're not spending money to get any sonic improvements anymore ... but more for "pride of ownership".


zone 1 to 3, its a quantum leap in sonic improvements.
Zone 3+ onwards, its the law of diminishing returns already.

just IMO...

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Post by arremie Fri May 21, 2010 6:19 am

dylan wrote:taiko arremie, 545 is rm1.8+ lar... way out of range.

i heard there is a 100/10 rule in HIFI world, which mean 100% additional cost only contribute 10% listening improvement.

anyone agree?
Bro, where got 1.8k? About 1.5k only Best match CDP with NAD C325BEE? Icon_smile
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Post by dylan Fri May 21, 2010 8:37 am

haha, this is reason a poison, from secondhand rm500 to rm950, to rm1200, and now rm1500, tomorrow is rm1800, the after is rm2100 ... etc.

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Post by arremie Fri May 21, 2010 9:14 am

Ok maa if in the end you have the satisfaction Best match CDP with NAD C325BEE? Icon_razz
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Post by ambg Fri May 21, 2010 1:43 pm

Regret for hijack but, arremie can pm where you got quoted. TQ.
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Post by dylan Fri May 21, 2010 10:36 pm

rm1.5k for C545 is good price, list price at SG in SGD600.

So arremie info is much appreciated. ahaha

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You both got PM Best match CDP with NAD C325BEE? Icon_smile
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Post by dylan Sun May 23, 2010 8:06 am

Thanks all, the quest ended with C545BEE .

in Zone 1 as set standard by mugenfoo.

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Post by azri Sun May 23, 2010 10:02 am

mpyw wrote:tested the NAD CD player with a VTL amp to drive the ELAC 248 just now......I din know the model no as the objective is to listen to the ELAC

jaw dropping sound even the 248 are new and not run in yet....the moment the singer starts to sing, it got my attention and I stop reading the mag on some Yamaha's in A&L....

Truly dynamic, crystal clear & the bass are awesome for such a slim tower....

but when switch to try the 5.1 BD, they use the Yamaha 1065 to drive it....the sound instantly become thin and the dynamics are not there, so the ELAC will need a power amp to drive it's potential out

also, the price also jaw dropping lar :p

its the ribbon tweeters that makes you stop reading & start to focus on the sound produced by elac 248
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Post by mpyw Mon May 24, 2010 5:31 pm

azri wrote:
mpyw wrote:tested the NAD CD player with a VTL amp to drive the ELAC 248 just now......I din know the model no as the objective is to listen to the ELAC

jaw dropping sound even the 248 are new and not run in yet....the moment the singer starts to sing, it got my attention and I stop reading the mag on some Yamaha's in A&L....

Truly dynamic, crystal clear & the bass are awesome for such a slim tower....

but when switch to try the 5.1 BD, they use the Yamaha 1065 to drive it....the sound instantly become thin and the dynamics are not there, so the ELAC will need a power amp to drive it's potential out

also, the price also jaw dropping lar :p

its the ribbon tweeters that makes you stop reading & start to focus on the sound produced by elac 248

I believe they are using what call "JET" tweeter, a shorter form of the ribbon as compare to other.

I do not know if is the sound of the tweeter or the crystal membrane they use, the sound so open, wide, accurate and details.

But it need power to sing...

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Post by azri Tue May 25, 2010 3:37 pm

NAD c372 ok tak?
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Post by arremie Tue May 25, 2010 4:15 pm

Nothing Google can't handle.... Best match CDP with NAD C325BEE? Icon_razz

http://www.audioreview.com/cat/amplification/integrated-amplifiers/nad/c372/PRD_299769_2717crx.aspx

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Post by azri Tue May 25, 2010 5:06 pm

shoot i forgot theres google.. dope!!

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Post by dylan Tue May 25, 2010 5:18 pm

http://nadelectronics.com/products/hifi-amplifiers/C-375BEE-Integrated-Amplifier

this is 1 step b4 the MASTER SERIES!!!!! Go get it....

So we can search C375 in sales column in 3 years time. haha

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Post by arremie Tue May 25, 2010 6:14 pm

Good match with CDP 545BEE. Then add tube preamp...perghh mesti cair Best match CDP with NAD C325BEE? Icon_razz
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Post by azri Tue May 25, 2010 7:08 pm

yeah!! that torodial transformer does looks promising. just like rotel !!

but how come both has same power output? same thing different facia?? just like rotel !!
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