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PRaT anyone ?

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Post by wabun Tue May 25, 2010 5:17 pm

What is it?
Do you want it?
have you got it?
or, are you one?

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Post by tycham Tue May 25, 2010 10:45 pm

hmmmMMm....Is it a TRaP?
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Post by arremie Tue May 25, 2010 10:49 pm

What the HEcK is PRaT?
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Post by tycham Tue May 25, 2010 11:00 pm

pACE rHYTHM and TiMinG.
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Post by mugenfoo Tue May 25, 2010 11:15 pm

Full Naim systems are the stereotypes for exceptional PRaT and the "Flat Earth" sound (ie, little or no depth perception, 1 dimensional soundstaging, etc).

Good or bad, its a matter of personal preference.
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Post by wataru Wed May 26, 2010 8:46 am

PRaT= E=mc2 its hard to explain.

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Post by f8. Wed May 26, 2010 9:06 am

In the UK and Europe, there seems to be a group of Naim fans who are switching to Densen.

Has anyone done a comparison between Naim and Densen?

http://ww.densen.dk/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=76&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=45#p1399
http://densen.dk/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=753&p=4438&hilit=naim#p4438
http://www.densen.dk/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=127&start=0&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&hilit=combo

The terms Pace Rhythm and Timing appear a lot in these pages.

No offense to anyone, lets be open minded about this.

I'm especially keen to know if anyone has tried driving the Harbeth P3ESR with the Densen DM10.

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Post by RobA4 Wed May 26, 2010 12:37 pm

This PRAT thingy is not for all tastes. Some like it, some think it's nothing to do with hifi.

Whatever-lah....

Main thing is, don't be a prat about it. PRaT anyone ? Icon_biggrin

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Post by kp93300 Thu May 27, 2010 4:22 pm

[quote="wabun"]What is it?
Do you want it?

How do you define it in relation to the music you audition ?
Is it the govern by the drummers action?
The beat of the drums ? The timing of the hi hat ?
please enlighten .

thanks
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Post by wabun Mon May 31, 2010 9:05 am

How do you define it in relation to the music you audition ?
Is it the govern by the drummers action?
The beat of the drums ? The timing of the hi hat ?
please enlighten .

http://www.tnt-audio.com/edcorner/prat_e.html

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Post by viper Thu Jun 03, 2010 10:34 pm

f8. wrote:In the UK and Europe, there seems to be a group of Naim fans who are switching to Densen.

Has anyone done a comparison between Naim and Densen?

http://ww.densen.dk/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=76&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=45#p1399
http://densen.dk/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=753&p=4438&hilit=naim#p4438
http://www.densen.dk/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=127&start=0&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&hilit=combo

The terms Pace Rhythm and Timing appear a lot in these pages.

No offense to anyone, lets be open minded about this.

I'm especially keen to know if anyone has tried driving the Harbeth P3ESR with the Densen DM10.

Ah ha...

Yeah...agreed with that. I am d one whom switches from Naim to Densen.

No offence to Naim user is my personal taste.

I started off with Naim Nait 3, followedby Naim 5i v1. Still found something a miss in my system. Got a chance to test out d DM10 with my Dyn. To me so much better then Naim 5i. Die die hv to get a Densen to complete my hifi dream, and now happily using Densen Classic Pre & Pwr PRaT anyone ? Icon_cool PRaT anyone ? Icon_biggrin .

Miss a chance owning a DM10 (Claim 1 of d best integrated amp ever built). The DM10 being bought by 1 of the forummer, you able to find him in Densen tread in hifi4sale. Now happily driving his Harbeth P3ESR.

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Post by f8. Fri Jun 04, 2010 2:13 pm

Ah cool I'll check it out.

So now you're on the DM20-DM30? Driving which Dynaudio?

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Post by viper Fri Jun 04, 2010 2:33 pm

f8. wrote:Ah cool I'll check it out.

So now you're on the DM20-DM30? Driving which Dynaudio?

Yup...Audience 52

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