what makes a good phono stage ?
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what makes a good phono stage ?
can share how you perceive a phono stage is good ?
wabun- Frequent Contributor

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Re: what makes a good phono stage ?
easy .....by listening to it .
Same how u perceive an Amp or cdplayer is good.
Same how u perceive an Amp or cdplayer is good.

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Re: what makes a good phono stage ?
Some phono stage is very analytic but ppl said too harsh..
Some phono stage is very detailed but ppl said too scratchy..
Some phono stage is very warm but ppl said too laid back...
So what is the better phono stage ?
How to furfill eveybody ear leh ?
Some phono stage is very detailed but ppl said too scratchy..
Some phono stage is very warm but ppl said too laid back...
So what is the better phono stage ?
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Re: what makes a good phono stage ?
You cannot fulfill everyone, it's as simple as that. Even if everyone were to use the same system in the same environment, there's no accounting for tastes. So if you plan to design one, do one that sounds right to your ears. Then pass it to me so I can give it a spin ...
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Re: what makes a good phono stage ?
wabun wrote:Some phono stage is very analytic but ppl said too harsh..
Some phono stage is very detailed but ppl said too scratchy..
Some phono stage is very warm but ppl said too laid back...
So what is the better phono stage ?How to furfill eveybody ear leh ?
Some amp is very analytic but ppl said too harsh..
Some amp is very detailed but ppl said too scratchy..
Some amp is very warm but ppl said too laid back...
So what is the better amp ?
Some cdplayer is very analytic but ppl said too harsh..
Some cdplayer is very detailed but ppl said too scratchy..
Some cdplayer is very warm but ppl said too laid back...
So what is the better cdplayer ?
Some (fill in the blanks) is very analytic but ppl said too harsh..
Some (fill in the blanks) is very detailed but ppl said too scratchy..
Some (fill in the blanks) is very warm but ppl said too laid back...
So what is the better (fill in the blanks) ?

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Re: what makes a good phono stage ?
The solution is to buy a mini compo with a graphic equalizer or maybe even with BBE and forget about the sound. But then again it might sound too plasticky!

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Re: what makes a good phono stage ?
Audyssey EQ !

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Re: what makes a good phono stage ?
Wabun...
If there are plans to build a unit, go ahead and build the unit. After which you release a few to get reviews.
Take the reviews positively and improve on the next release similar to the big boys.
Also decide which segment of the Hifi community that you want to target these phono stage - low-philers or the mid-philers or the high-philers.
You also can do a market survey on the features that a phonostage should have - dual mode or a single mode (MM / MC), adjustable loading via dip switches or in built or external power supply or Tube or Solid state circuitry. Sure there could be drawbacks in incorporating all in one shell or vice versa.
After which you would be the only one to decide the direction.
Read through this link : http://www.enjoythemusic.com/magazine/equipment/1104/phonostage.htm
Might give you an understanding.
cheers
If there are plans to build a unit, go ahead and build the unit. After which you release a few to get reviews.
Take the reviews positively and improve on the next release similar to the big boys.
Also decide which segment of the Hifi community that you want to target these phono stage - low-philers or the mid-philers or the high-philers.
You also can do a market survey on the features that a phonostage should have - dual mode or a single mode (MM / MC), adjustable loading via dip switches or in built or external power supply or Tube or Solid state circuitry. Sure there could be drawbacks in incorporating all in one shell or vice versa.
After which you would be the only one to decide the direction.
Read through this link : http://www.enjoythemusic.com/magazine/equipment/1104/phonostage.htm
Might give you an understanding.
cheers

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Re: what makes a good phono stage ?
I think its pretty obvious that there is no perfect design to suit all tastes.
One man's meat, another man's poison, right?
Everyone have a different perception and interpretation of perceived sound. Above all none of us have a perfect hearing, so the term 'good', 'nice', 'excellent', 'balanced, etc, etc to one may not meant(sound) the same to another...
Having said that, why are we (some of us anyway) are craving for the 'perfect sound'.. Is there an audio 'nirvana'?
One man's meat, another man's poison, right?
Everyone have a different perception and interpretation of perceived sound. Above all none of us have a perfect hearing, so the term 'good', 'nice', 'excellent', 'balanced, etc, etc to one may not meant(sound) the same to another...
Having said that, why are we (some of us anyway) are craving for the 'perfect sound'.. Is there an audio 'nirvana'?

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Re: what makes a good phono stage ?
Thanks everyone for the feedback
appreciate it..
Bassraptor.. once my phono sound passed Mr Lim ear, will pass it to you for comment.. thanks
Bassraptor.. once my phono sound passed Mr Lim ear, will pass it to you for comment.. thanks
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Re: what makes a good phono stage ?
Wah, Mr Lim ahead of me in the queue ...!
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Re: what makes a good phono stage ?
Wah, Mr Lim ahead of me in the queue ...!
Eh, he get use to my preamp sound mah, so more easier to pickup improvement / degration.. If the sound is confident enough to disclose, will bring it to you ASAP for audition.
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