Re: Malaysia - Negeri Sembilan Audiophiles Group

by jokiarch Sat Jul 09, 2011 3:20 pm

Hi cyh and rsbn,

I am pleased that you would be kind enough to bring in your mighty TL50+, so we have 2 amps including the AN OTO SET Signature.

I will bring Tannoy Mini Autograph & Rogers 60th Anniversary with me.

Looking forward to it.

Jo

by car o scope Sat Jul 09, 2011 9:44 pm

cyh wrote:
Danny have suspected that the s6 v2 are not well run in. He was told that the speakers are demo units. And because of that, as you maybe suggesting, it may not be a fair shoot out. Having said that, the 'blind' test primary reason was to hear the difference between the 2 pairs. And..... I have indicated to the 'panel' that the transparency & tonality of paradigm is what i like. In fact I felt it was the best with the oto. However with the Krells I felt the triangle did better. In the context of this shoot out, i felt the triangle was a better all rounder. Maybe it was well run in? Maybe paradigm was not run in? Maybe the electronics partners were not good match? Maybe...whatever..I have also indicated IMHO and my opinions is not necessary what the 'panel' thought. I'm not a reviewer, maybe I don't know how to express my views well and the 'fairness' of it all i may over look. If I offended anyone with my rants, my apologies. I'm sure you know Danny better than me, maybe you can ask him what transpired? I dunno who you are but I'm sure you know the paradigm better than me. There are alot Fridays coming up and.....I like to move on.
Regards

If I may add just a little bit more...

The test is to find out the preference of each individuals rather than pointing out which is the winner. Each speakers have their own pros and cons.

by car o scope Sat Jul 09, 2011 10:00 pm

rsbn,

Did you eat 'bread + butter' this morning?

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Ooops... Another reflection.. lol!

by **htkaki** Sat Jul 09, 2011 10:19 pm

jokiarch wrote:Hi cyh and rsbn,

I am pleased that you would be kind enough to bring in your mighty TL50+, so we have 2 amps including the AN OTO SET Signature.

I will bring Tannoy Mini Autograph & Rogers 60th Anniversary with me.

Looking forward to it.

Jo

The 'starters' for upcoming gathering would be OTO SE Signature and TL50+ (Thank you to rsbn589)

Then, the main course would be your Mini Autograph and Roger 60th Anniversary. Any other 'desserts', 'side orders', etc?

Btw, the 'side orders' ain't those teh tarik, roti 4 segi, etc from nearby mamak restaurant. That would have to wait til the 90minutes match at Wembley ended (I think got injury time lah) lol!

by cyh Sun Jul 10, 2011 10:37 am

The 'starters' for upcoming gathering would be OTO SE Signature and TL50+ (Thank you to rsbn589)

rsbn- can bring along your wireworld cord for pre?

Then, the main course would be your Mini Autograph and Roger 60th Anniversary. Any other 'desserts', 'side orders', etc?

Max I assume you mean that Trio, Tannoy & 3/5a will be the main course?

From previous Friday, TL50+ needs at least a half hour warm up time.

by rsbn589 Sun Jul 10, 2011 4:14 pm

car o scope wrote:rsbn,

Did you eat 'bread + butter' this morning?

Ooops... Another reflection..

It was tasted as supper last night. Roti kosong, my cuppa Laughing

by rsbn589 Sun Jul 10, 2011 4:18 pm

htkaki wrote:

The 'starters' for upcoming gathering would be OTO SE Signature and TL50+ (Thank you to rsbn589)

Then, the main course would be your Mini Autograph and Roger 60th Anniversary. Any other 'desserts', 'side orders', etc?

Btw, the 'side orders' ain't those teh tarik, roti 4 segi, etc from nearby mamak restaurant. That would have to wait til the 90minutes match at Wembley ended (I think got injury time lah)

I guess there will be OT. The Jedi will return Twisted Evil

p/s: cyh, sure. Will bring the WW cable.

by **htkaki** Sun Jul 10, 2011 10:43 pm

rsbn589, I have a sneak peek of this today :

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by car o scope Mon Jul 11, 2011 10:47 pm

cyh wrote:
From previous Friday, TL50+ needs at least a half hour warm up time.

No problem. We should start it up earlier.

rsbn589 wrote:

It was tasted as supper last night. Roti kosong, my cuppa

Have you tried out with the speakers that the owner mentioned non-stop these few days? Very Happy

by **htkaki** Tue Jul 12, 2011 1:31 pm

We have a 'gate crasher'! Probably 2 'wild menu' (instead of wild card). I think the injury time need to extend to about 30minutes. May The Force be with you.

If can't finish, shall we continue on Sat afternoon since there might be guests from PJ poison den?

Mr 'Man In The Mirror' is going to bring his Italian beauty, right?

by Mikapoh Tue Jul 12, 2011 2:45 pm

Italian beauty must be Sonus Faber standmount. Floorstanders are too heavy.

Any more photos for us to drool on?

Max, your equipments are worth more then few grands, i think it is sensible to get a better camera to catch your beauties?

by **htkaki** Tue Jul 12, 2011 3:14 pm

Mikapoh wrote:Italian beauty must be Sonus Faber standmount. Floorstanders are too heavy.

Any more photos for us to drool on?

Max, your equipments are worth more then few grands, i think it is sensible to get a better camera to catch your beauties?

It ain't SF. Unless someone is generous enough to bring Cremona M or Stradivari . Btw, it ain't loudspeakers Razz

Photos? Hmm.... No money for a DSLR as we have dumped all the money on these toys. The dim light is a problem to take photos. However, we will use digicam for this Friday Classic Special.

by Mikapoh Tue Jul 12, 2011 4:02 pm

Wow, Friday Classic huh?

Can you show us the 'menu' chef?? My eyes is on the flagship model, Magellan, sitting at the side way silently warming up for big show. Heard that Naim can drive her to sing the correct pitch

by car o scope Tue Jul 12, 2011 11:31 pm

Mikapoh wrote:Wow, Friday Classic huh?

Can you show us the 'menu' chef?? My eyes is on the flagship model, Magellan, sitting at the side way silently warming up for big show. Heard that Naim can drive her to sing the correct pitch

Don't worry, bro. 'Menu' will be shown soon. We were given some sneak peak last week. Wink

I can't wait to experience the vintage Brit together with the French Lady. Looks like it's gonna be fun. Before that, there will be Brits with Brits and maybe followed by Japanese with the Brits. Possibly, an American will just walk in and provide some fireworks as well. Heheheheheheh... Twisted Evil

by **htkaki** Wed Jul 13, 2011 10:05 am

Additional dish :

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by jchong Wed Jul 13, 2011 2:59 pm

Is that the Tulip?

by **htkaki** Wed Jul 13, 2011 3:46 pm

Yes, it is the €12,000 Tulip. But, we will not be pitting it against the Classic as it would not be a fair comparison. Perhaps we should try to get McIntosh pre & power or maybe Meishu lah. Anyone?

One thing for sure is that we are going to pit it against the resident pre/power units and OTO SE (as pre) with a power amp (have to send out e-pigeon to Tubey Wong)

by Mikapoh Wed Jul 13, 2011 3:48 pm

Hey jchong,

How's your planar speaking hunting getting along so far?

by cyh Wed Jul 13, 2011 9:04 pm

Mr 'Man In The Mirror' is going to bring his Italian beauty, right?

'Mr Man in the Mirror'....i was wondering who was it Question

Bugger! Yea, Italian pre coming with englishman. Laughing

Wah Max! I don't want to sound ungrateful but don't you think we have too many toys to play this week?! Can move some stuff to next week, if possible?

by **htkaki** Wed Jul 13, 2011 10:06 pm

We will not be using the Tulip due to time constraint for this coming Premier League.

This coming 'Special Classic' priority on Jo Ki's 60th Anniversary LS3/5A, Tannoy Mini Autograph, TL-50, Italian pre, 'Return Of The Jedi', and what else? Tubey Wong going to bring his tube power amp?

Btw, cuci mata a bit :

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by car o scope Thu Jul 14, 2011 8:44 am

The 'menu' will be simplified since the list is getting longer and longer. Not encouraged to have leftovers or unfinished dishes. Very Happy

The main course will be the Autograph Mini, Rogers 60th Annv and the Jedi's partner. Already planned which amp to use.

Hopefully, it will be a bread + butter session for everyone!! cheers

by **htkaki** Thu Jul 14, 2011 9:31 am

Updates:

We have a special gathering on Sat afternoon with the PJ Poison Den group. I wonder SJ is free to join. Lunch first (no more Italian this time). Wong Suk like to sample Seremban's delicious foods.

Tested The Tulip for a brief moment yesterday by using Quartet.
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by cyh Thu Jul 14, 2011 10:23 am

Tested The Tulip for a brief moment yesterday by using Quartet

Max, you gonna use the Tulip with the Magellan at the show? BTW, the NSAG should be at wembley at what time?

by **htkaki** Thu Jul 14, 2011 10:54 am

I guess not. We shall discuss abt it when we meet up. Don't want to let the cat out.

Should be usual time. However, we might have dinner with Jo next to Wembley if he could reach early. I'll let Mr Pepper & Bread know if Jo can make it on time. Fill up the tank before kick-off Razz

I was told that the 1st squad is moving in to Wembley today. How about your Italian beauty?

Btw, who else is joining? Mr Wilson Audio and Mr JBL?

by car o scope Thu Jul 14, 2011 11:49 am

cyh wrote:Max, you gonna use the Tulip with the Magellan at the show? BTW, the NSAG should be at wembley at what time?

Fuh yoh.. Very nice avatar.. This time no reflection. Laughing

by cyh Thu Jul 14, 2011 12:03 pm

I guess not. We shall discuss abt it when we meet up. Don't want to let
the cat out.

Understand Max.

I was told that the 1st squad is moving in to Wembley today. How about
your Italian beauty?

Yea I heard from c_o_s, after all TL50+ needs warm up time. Italian is coming.

Mr Wilson Audio and Mr JBL?

If they are interested, I will call them over

by cyh Thu Jul 14, 2011 12:05 pm

Fuh yoh.. Very nice avatar.. This time no reflection.

Hahaha...man in the mirror. Thought I use something that I use Razz

by **htkaki** Thu Jul 14, 2011 5:24 pm

cyh wrote:
Mr Wilson Audio and Mr JBL?
If they are interested, I will call them over

I bet Mr Danish is not keen since it is only standmount loudspeakers. We should make a gathering at Mr Wilson Audio. SOP applies, I guess Very Happy

We will fire up TL50+ by using OTO SE Signature as pre with Trio before the match begins. Btw, any1 with silver cables?

I'll move out some of the gears to make some space.

by **WongKN** Thu Jul 14, 2011 6:03 pm

Wah, lots of good stuff. At the rate you are hosting parties, I hope by the time we make our trip there, we won't be left listetning to MP3s on a portable stereo ! Laughing

by cyh Thu Jul 14, 2011 8:03 pm

We will fire up TL50+ by using OTO SE Signature as pre with Trio before the match begins. Btw, any1 with silver cables?

Didn't know that Oto can do pre duties? Sub shotout? Italian vs Oto? Smile

by car o scope Thu Jul 14, 2011 9:42 pm

Good exercise just now..

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The podium is set!! Smile

by **htkaki** Thu Jul 14, 2011 10:12 pm

WongKN wrote:Wah, lots of good stuff. At the rate you are hosting parties, I hope by the time we make our trip there, we won't be left listetning to MP3s on a portable stereo !

My only concern is that my system is below your par. I do hope that it performs well enough for you Embarassed

No worry. I had the Sonos player for you to listen. iPhone can control it. Internet radio ok or not? lol!

Didn't know that Oto can do pre duties? Sub shotout? Italian vs Oto?

The OTO SE comes with pre out. So, we can use it as pre. Italy Vs England jocolor

1st team is already in.

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by cyh Thu Jul 14, 2011 10:27 pm

Wah! I like the special 3/5a 'transport'! lol!

. Looks like wembley is almost ready!

by car o scope Thu Jul 14, 2011 10:41 pm

Lights On!!

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by **htkaki** Thu Jul 14, 2011 11:06 pm

cyh wrote:Wah! I like the special 3/5a 'transport'! . Looks like wembley is almost ready!

Ya, one of its kind. I wonder whether Unc Jo also has his very own 3/5A carrier or not.

by Mikapoh Thu Jul 14, 2011 11:32 pm

car o scope wrote:Good exercise just now..

The podium is set!!

Sori for newbie curiosity, may i ask what is the main reason for these 4 "F" to appear on the stand? I suppose for marking the speaker placement?

by jokiarch Fri Jul 15, 2011 7:40 am

This is Foundation Designer II stands famous for its use for LS3/5A. The "F" marks the logo of the very name.

Mine comes in its original box for both of the speakers that I am going to bring. Both of the speakers have not been used at all in the recent 2 years; especially the Mini Autograph. It has only clocked up less than 100hrs.

So we shall see how they fair.

Jo

by Mikapoh Fri Jul 15, 2011 9:15 am

Thanks Jo for the explanation.

Lets wait and see.

by **htkaki** Fri Jul 15, 2011 9:23 am

Looks like a simple stand and doesn't come cheap but it works very well (not to mention fit nicely) for LS3/5A. Not surprised that a fellow member went all the way to Penang to buy it.

Unc Jo, we shall let your loudspeakers work hard tonight Cool

by jchong Fri Jul 15, 2011 9:42 am

Mikapoh wrote:Hey jchong,

How's your planar speaking hunting getting along so far?

Haven't had time to go listen to one yet unfortunately.

by **htkaki** Sat Jul 16, 2011 1:54 am

Fun filled night. Cham made a detour to have a quick audition. Thank you to Jo Ki for bringing his loves and joining us.

The exclusive Roger 60th Anniversary LS3/5A:

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More reports and photos soon.

by car o scope Sat Jul 16, 2011 8:53 am

Here's the menu of the night.. lol!

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by **htkaki** Sat Jul 16, 2011 10:22 am

cyh quickly went in to audition Mini Autograph while we were having our fish porridge dinner

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1st on the dish was the Tannoy Mini Autograph. This is very cute and beautifully finish. Really a looker.

Cham also listened to a few songs with it before heading back to his hometown.

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This is for the fun part and no one dare to go thru the 'balance' test lol!

Roger LS3/5A 60the Anniversary in action :

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by mugenfoo Sat Jul 16, 2011 10:57 am

that green/black spool of cable in the picture looks super familiar.

by car o scope Sat Jul 16, 2011 5:49 pm

It used to be the elevated XLO Pro highway.

I just realized that the Belden speaker cables we used for the whole night matched well with the equipments.

And also stunned that even a pair of grilles can create huge differences to a pair of LS3/5a.

by car o scope Sun Jul 17, 2011 12:17 am

Tannoy Mini Autograph singing in the 1st round of the session.

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The 2nd round was taken over by the 60th Anniversary
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As expected, the session lasted longer than usual.

Hi Jo,
Thank you so much for the wonderful experience!! cheers

by jokiarch Sun Jul 17, 2011 1:12 am

I would like to thank everyone for great music listening session last night especially Max and Ben for the hospitality, and not forgetting the delicious fish porridge!

I also enjoyed the company and glad to have met, Car O Scope, CYH, Cham, DIY guru among few old friends; I realised that I can recognized all of you lot, mostly from my past years doing KLIAV Shows... Good to see you all.

Of all the speakers we listened to, I like Rogers 60th Anniversary the least! It was just sounded too tight and not really open up like the rest in the set-up that night. I love the sound of Triangle Quartet, I am sure this will be a crown puller for the coming show.

Thank you all,
Jo Ki

by **WongKN** Sun Jul 17, 2011 9:02 am

Max & COS,

Many thanks for the hospitality yesterday evening. I apologise for the last minute change of plans and am grateful that you guys accomodated us.

From what I heard yesterday evening, I am happy and feel that you guys will NOT be humiliated at the end of this month. In fact based on last year's show, I think you guys stands a good chance to 'mix it up' with the top guys at the show. Of course cannot be over-confident la, and expect things like 'best sound of the show' and so forth. But I feel you should impress a lot of visitors, based on SQ from the price and quality level of the system you plan to display and play at the show. Keep it up guys !

by Mikapoh Sun Jul 17, 2011 9:54 am

Hey guys,

Out of curiosity, do you think the speakers placement are too far apart from each other? I thought especially mini or small standmount speakers need to place closer to work coherently?

Any summarized views on those speakers performing on the stage, apart from a little comment by Joki.

Hmm, WongKN has talked bout mixing with top-guns in the show. Hope this fever will go on even after the show.

Cheers

by **WongKN** Sun Jul 17, 2011 11:54 am

My comment about mixing with top-guns is meant to say that in the forthcoming KLAVS, it is expected that several dealers will be bringing in their top-of-the-range components for display and playing. Against illustrous companies like that, a couple of 'young upstarts' might seem to be a bit out of place. Will they be drowned in a sea full of 'big fish' ? Well the biggest strength of these two guys are that they are humble and willing to learn. From personal experience from yesterday evening, IMHO, they will -not- drown at the KLAVS. In fact, there is a chance they can establish themselves as capable of giving very respectable sound indeed. I think given an open mind, visitors to their room might be pleasantly surprised and would think it a worthwhile visit. Of course, expectations have also to be set right la.

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