Which type of turntables do you prefer - direct-drive or belt-drive?

Idler wheel ..... , thorens 124 , lenco l75 , garrard 401 . 301 and dual 1229 ... so quiet . Many fan love this michine ...y?

I have yet to experience idler wheel TTs.. barely remembers the Lencos.. I was too young then..

Yes, very quiet... my TT's are somewhat quite idle for now.

my experince idler wheel is so good , when give the best set up.
sometime people see like funny vigtage michine . but the sound michine like rolex . swiss made. perfect overall .

i love idler wheel also.

Could you categorized idler wheel TTs in the 'audiophiles' group?

of course . yes

That's good to know! Now have to look out for a good value idler wheel TTs..

hazy wrote:

wabun wrote:

Many people swear by belt driven machine and I use one with isolated motor, The Clearaudio Champion. From my inadequate experience with Thorens TD124Mk2 with idler wheel which associates with rumble, wow & flutter factors which is more associates with older machines but it does gives highest musicality and sweetness of the playback. Sometime specs on paper doesn't promise good sound....IMHO

very agree to you Sting.. specification doesnt guranteed anything..
just pleasure to the eye.. better listen with ear than see with eye when dealing with hifi stuff...

Same Hi end is no end

good quote hazy!

sting wrote:

hazy wrote:

wabun wrote:

Many people swear by belt driven machine and I use one with isolated motor, The Clearaudio Champion. From my inadequate experience with Thorens TD124Mk2 with idler wheel which associates with rumble, wow & flutter factors which is more associates with older machines but it does gives highest musicality and sweetness of the playback. Sometime specs on paper doesn't promise good sound....IMHO

very agree to you Sting.. specification doesnt guranteed anything..
just pleasure to the eye.. better listen with ear than see with eye when dealing with hifi stuff...

Same Hi end is no end

good quote hazy!

tq

I like the belt drive ,

I have both belt and direct.. like them both!

im plays all michine , for me all come be better.
for jazzy i sugguest u try ilder wheel.

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I saw a Dual idler drive for sale. Is that any good?

https://www.hifi4sale.net/audio-video-equipment-for-sale-f1/dual-1219-turntable-used-t4401.htm

good .jazzy 1219 . i aslo have 1229 more precisian modul.

ok the platter heavy then thoren and garrad , ( 3.2 kg )the motor better then garrard. this michine german analog lover.

Some say german vs swiss . for me i like both.
but im servis , garrad 301 , thoren 124 and dual 1219 or 1229 .
very complecated is dual . Most expert analog lover know dual michine is the best automatic idler wheel. servis just need lubrican oil and sicilon oil enought for long time . The motor very quite the thoren and garrad , smooth and good pricisian tone arm.

Whatever depend pesonal test . But dual michine is good .
just join dual fan club.

enjoy bro cheer

Thanks for the input hazy. I will consider.

jazzy939 wrote:Thanks for the input hazy. I will consider.

U welcome .