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Post by azri on Thu Jun 10, 2010 5:59 am

my old marantz cd 50 has started to give a hick-ups (occasionally) during playback. when i stuff in a cd its easy to read, no hesitation, but during playback it does gives a skip, sometimes at early pb, sometimes in the middle & sometimes at the end of a playback. very rare, but without fail on every disc. does this means the lens are going kaput? or its the transport cdm4/19 motor weakening or laser pick up not having a smooth operation. i do have a very good cdm4/19 mechanism (from philips cdp) for spare but not sure to replace it or not. pls advice.

~ the excitement of playing vintage never ends scratch


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Post by sflam on Fri Jun 11, 2010 8:43 pm

seems to me the laser is kaput. send it in for replacement.

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Re: calling all marantz owner!!

Post by azri on Sat Jun 12, 2010 8:56 pm

replace the whole mechanism? i guess you're right. its even getting worst everyday. since i do have a spare, i will DIYed to replace it. any advise upon dismantling?

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Post by adrian4454 on Sat Jun 12, 2010 10:19 pm

Make sure you take off the power cord from the wall plug. Dont leave it plugged, eventhough the switch is off.

I dont know about your marantz unit, but my CD63ki is rather easy to dismantle. Just make sure you know a thing or 2 about pulling flex(those connection wire that look like a piece of ribbon.) As some have lock down coupler, some not.

Happy DIY.

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Post by jameschewmt on Sun Jun 13, 2010 10:05 am

Good luck to you too - but do di static yourself and equipment by touching some metal parts before touching the mother board or transport . they are highly vulnerable to static charge.

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Post by azri on Sun Jun 13, 2010 3:51 pm

will do. thanks heaps.

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Post by azri on Sun Jun 13, 2010 9:10 pm

this is weird, im listening music thru cd 50 right now & theres no skip on second disc. the was with the 1st disc on a few tracks, so far no on the second disc scratch

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Post by jameschewmt on Sun Jun 13, 2010 11:03 pm

most common cause is your cd is a little wrap , lens slightly misalight due to unexpected pressure upon cleaning the len or imitation disc. some of my chinese cds show NO DISC upon inserting .

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Re: calling all marantz owner!!

Post by azri on Tue Jun 15, 2010 3:40 pm

hey guys.. i nearly ripped of my marantz & philips cd just to change the transport mechanism until a nice guy from france told me to do perform this procedure :

First, pull up the clamp arm, under you'll se a whithe plastic shell holding the clamp, this one being in contact with the main pressing arm via a steel ball. Clean that ball and both contact sides, you can try to add a tiny drop of very fluid oil.

I've saved an Arcam Alpha One Plus like this, with Thorens' TT oil as lube.
While you're at it check for the free movement of the laser arm, just the home position because of the flat cable. I did also put a very small touch of oil there.


if you guys are having the same problem with your cdp that utilises cdm 4/19 do this before giving up the player. mine is working like before right now & mind you its almost 20 years old & still kicking!! yeah!! What a Face easy.. Basketball

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Post by arremie on Tue Jun 15, 2010 3:51 pm

time to get urself a virgin

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Post by azri on Tue Jun 15, 2010 4:11 pm

thinking of lite dac-ah, good reviews or will wait for tda1541a asS1 king

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Re: calling all marantz owner!!

Post by noodle88 on Tue Jun 15, 2010 10:35 pm

Cd 50, it's a gud cdp. With minor mod on the player, it will sound superb. The sifu even mod it to top loading....

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Post by azri on Wed Jun 16, 2010 2:10 pm

yeah i read the NOS recommendation on this cdp but im to scared to take it to that level..

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Post by azri on Wed Jun 16, 2010 6:04 pm

just when i thought of a cdp with tda1541a S1.. it really pops up!
will have to standby some cash for the bidding war.. ouchh!! No No

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Post by azri on Mon Aug 23, 2010 4:07 pm

i changed the topic for the benefit & further discussions for others. anyway :

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Marantz-1300DC-Integrated-Amplifier-Ultra-rare-orig-/320579536286?pt=AU_Electronics_Audio_Amplifiers#ht_715wt_930

ade bran?? What a Face

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Post by azri on Sun Sep 26, 2010 9:19 pm

hi guys, does marantz cd 95 ever makes it way to malaysia? what is recommended used price for this cdp? thanks

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Re: calling all marantz owner!!

Post by noodle88 on Sun Sep 26, 2010 10:45 pm

Hi azri,
I own a cd 95, I got it at RM 3500 3 years ago. It's a good player.

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cd 50 nos mod

Post by chefsinc67 on Mon Sep 27, 2010 9:51 am

i have just completed the NOS mod on my cd50 and it is more than worth the risk.the Player now sounds on Par with a marantz sa11s sacd player. this is truly a hot player.
the player has had a new analogue stage put in it , new caps, and will undergo a Clock transplant in the near future.
I also have a CD40 with the same DAC chip and board , but a new cdm 4/19 mechanism is needed as I sold it off to a friend. anyone with a cdm4/19 full mechanism I am willing to pay good$$ for it.

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Re: calling all marantz owner!!

Post by azri on Mon Sep 27, 2010 11:04 am

noodle : is it still worth that amount of money or should it be less?
chefsinc : did you diyed the NOS? crap i need to learn this. good luck on your search for cdm4/19. are you sure its not reading disc? ive had this problem earlier after a simple solution it works flawlessly until today. anyway theres heaps of 90s players with cdm 4/19 including philips entry level. good luck

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Re: calling all marantz owner!!

Post by noodle88 on Mon Sep 27, 2010 1:41 pm

Azri,

I think it may worth more than that. Cd95 is limited edition. It's in champange gold colour n weighted 15kg compare to cd94mk2 at 12kg.
It peanut for cd94 or cd95 to beat sa11s1.

Chefsinc67,

beside cd95, I also own cd60. The nos mod really worth a try. But cd 94 is way above cd60.

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Post by azri on Mon Sep 27, 2010 7:42 pm

too much money for a source i guess. perhaps one day or perhaps never at all can i purchase such equipment. nevertheless its a gem..

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Post by chefsinc67 on Thu Sep 30, 2010 1:46 pm

This is an easy modification, just follow what our friend fikas of lampizator fame has to say.
Www.lampizator.eu
And yes it is well worth the effort, takes a humble cd player to limits I never thought possible for a 20+ year old player.
Go for it and u will not be dissapointed

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Post by chefsinc67 on Thu Sep 30, 2010 1:51 pm

I have now got my marantz cd5000 working again after a fright, and this truly is one of the best marantz cd players of all time. Can't wAit to do my clock mod and this will be top shelf stuff. Anybody with a cd 5000 keep it as this is a classic already

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Re: calling all marantz owner!!

Post by chefsinc67 on Fri Oct 01, 2010 9:27 am

Latest update is I have sourced 2 cdm 4/19 from Germany and tray wheels from hong kong. Needed a motor but pulled one out of an old DVD player and it works.
I can see a full weekend of modification coming up in anticipation of all the other parts arriving. These modded 20 year old players are fantastic and well worth the effort

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Re: calling all marantz owner!!

Post by azri on Fri Oct 01, 2010 10:48 am

chefsinc, did you emailed me about the mechansm? how much does that cost you including postage ? i do have spares for cdm4/19 but from a philips cdp which is still working. its really a back up for my cd 50.

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Post by chefsinc67 on Fri Oct 01, 2010 2:44 pm

Hi Azri, no I didn't email u, and it has cost me quite a lot from Germany around RM300 x 2 for spares as well. What model is your other philips?

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Post by noodle88 on Sat Oct 02, 2010 9:33 am

Rm300 for a cdm4, it's cost a lot. I got my cdm1 at only Rm550 3years ago n it can last me another 5 or 6 years. But not cdm4

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Re: calling all marantz owner!!

Post by azri on Sun Oct 03, 2010 10:38 am

chefsinc, its from philips cd 480. el cheapo but the same mechanism..

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Re: calling all marantz owner!!

Post by samn on Mon Jan 31, 2011 1:42 pm

I have Marantz CD6003. Based on spec, it has Cirrus Logic CS4398 24Bit/192khz DAC on Delta Sigma Architecture. Well, I could understand bit and khz but I don't know how good is Cirrus Logic CS4398 and Delta Sigma Architecture. I browse in the net, I found some technical data about them which I don't understand. So far, I'm very pleased with its sound qualities but is there anymore juices that I can extract from the CD6003?

Hence, come to the question whether I should add External DAC like Cambridge DACMagic, Arcam rDAC, etc to gain better sonic qualities from CD6003 or I should leave CD6003 as it is. I do notice DACMagic has upsampling feature, would it enhance my CD6003 or is it just a gimmick? In addition, mostly I listened to compress files such as MP3, WAV, WMA, AAC, etc via CD6003.

Appreciate all Sifus advises. Thanks.


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Re: calling all marantz owner!!

Post by cmboy on Mon Jan 31, 2011 1:59 pm

I always think whatever mods, there's only so much one can do to extract more juice (like you say so). Eventhough anyone can say with much expense and mods it'll give a good run for the money to a high end CDP or transport but it stays there with only so much and will lag behind a good heavy build CD transport with better electronics and perhaps heavier build CD mechanism. IMHO, These budget marantz have plasticky cd mechanisms and loader, that'll be no match for better build ones like those found in the Wadia or others built like a tank. Perhaps you should be looking into those heavy build transport and external DAC if you find your Marantz lacking. These higher end machines may offer qualities of wider soundstage, airier ambience and space. Other SQ and tonal qualities, musicality is subjective depending on component match.

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Post by samn on Tue Feb 01, 2011 3:30 pm

Thanks cmboy for the right perspectives and advises. I do note those heavy build transport with better electronics will definitely outshine the Marantz. However, the challenge here is that I can't afford those shining machines that I do dream to own one day. In meantime, I had to stick around with small budget in the range of RM1K-2K per component.

Is there any used high end machines that can play compressed and uncompressed files in the given budget that you can suggest to me? Thanks.

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Post by khlim_77 on Thu Feb 10, 2011 2:51 am

i facing the problem now on my marantz cdp , the tray since like some time not function, and moving in & out slowly
how can i solve the problem on it ?

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Post by adrian4454 on Thu Feb 10, 2011 9:36 am

Hi Khlim,
Is it the 67 or 63 series of CDP u have? I think majority of them suffering the same fate. The plastic gear might have been broken of few tooths. So the moment like coming out fast and slow interim.

Guess all the Malaysia made transport mechanism might have incompatible grease used for the gearing...

Anyway, dont worry Mr. Oh that is highly recommended in this website can easily replace the necessary component for you. I've mine done by him.

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Post by azri on Mon Feb 21, 2011 10:38 am

yeah.. its typical of that models..

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Re: calling all marantz owner!!

Post by samn on Tue Feb 22, 2011 1:22 pm

I manually pull out and push in the tray of my cd67se. the whole gear has no teeth anymore like an old man. lol. But the sound is still superb 90s sound. Laughing

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Post by azri on Wed Feb 23, 2011 3:12 am

my cd63 just got back from mr oh. its behaving like new again..

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Post by khlim_77 on Wed Feb 23, 2011 7:21 am

i think Mr Oh may be too far from me , i try to open the cover and the tray is functioning well , aft i cover it back the problem appear again
any good repair man in Jb to introduce ?

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Post by adrian4454 on Wed Feb 23, 2011 9:53 am

Hi Khlim,
It is not the tray gear that's rosak. It is most like the ring gear that in direct contact with the tray that's rosak. Mr. Oh will change to a new gear and belt also.

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Post by zeebee on Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:36 am

azri wrote:my cd63 just got back from mr oh. its behaving like new again..


Wow mate !!! ... Mr Oh delivers Downunder... now that's what I call Service with a capital 'S' Very Happy ...

Khlim,

I think you should consider Mr Oh as he has, to date (and from people I knew and those I recommended Mr Oh to) fixed numerous cd-tray or amps problems. My Simaudio lens and tray, which has recently had a new-found owner, was fixed plus with better motor and tray from Japan. I was surprised that the original motor was from China even though it was circa 2004-2005 plus proudly displaying 'Fabrique au Canada per Simaudio Ltee' on it's backside..

The best part is the whole service was at a very reasonable charge and comes with smile Very Happy (and plus some good advice/tips on hi fi if you care to ask him)...

Marantz has always been almost 'bread n butter' aka 'safe' cdp for me spinning the silver discs through many years. Starting with CD 54 (or CD52, not sure actual model no) in the mid eighties, CD 75, late 80's early 90's (these two were models from Downunder, not sure their comparable models here) to the CD 65SE from Woo Kee Hong from the mid-90's. Current in my 'stable' (albeit not seeing much spinning these days) both the SA7001 KI (for stereo) and DV7001 (MC).

Never quite afford the higher ends like CD 94 in the eighties or the current 'Mutiara' (KI Pearl) ones Very Happy.. but they have been good to me... especially the CD75 which came along with a nice leggy blond one summer downunder... ahhh that's another story
Very Happy Very Happy ..

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Re: calling all marantz owner!!

Post by khlim_77 on Wed Feb 23, 2011 4:55 pm

my question is aft the servicing can it rush for how long ? coz i have to purposely carry it to KL and bring it back to JB

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Post by azri on Wed Feb 23, 2011 6:22 pm

aiseh, i forgot to edit my location. im actually in bangi already What a Face

cheers

as for marantz, currently i do have :

cd 54 tda 1540 x 2
cd 50 tda 1541a
cd 63 ??
cd 67 ??
(for rock music cd 63 & 67 is ok, but for jazz id prefer tda dac)

besides having
philips cd 450 tda 1541
philips cd xxx (cant remember) tda 1543 < this is crap, but cdm 4/19, so chill
mission pcm 4000 souped up version of tda 1541
rotel rcc 945 pcm crap
rotel rcd 965ax ??? popular in jap
rotel rcd 955ax souped up version of tda 1541a
naim cd 3 > single crown!

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Re: calling all marantz owner!!

Post by zeebee on Wed Feb 23, 2011 7:33 pm

khlim_77 wrote:my question is aft the servicing can it rush for how long ? coz i have to purposely carry it to KL and bring it back to JB


I may misunderstood what you're trying to say here but I suppose you'd have to expect a few days and IMHO looking at the workload Mr Oh had so far (this is the 'see with your own eyes' kind of thing), a quick rush may be out of question. Perhaps you can make some arrangements with some friends/relatives or doing it as a holiday trip to KL..

Well mate, all of us here can only suggest but you make your own decision. Anyway, good luck Very Happy

Cheers,

zb


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Re: calling all marantz owner!!

Post by samn on Wed Feb 23, 2011 8:19 pm

azri wrote:aiseh, i forgot to edit my location. im actually in bangi already What a Face

cheers

as for marantz, currently i do have :

cd 54 tda 1540 x 2
cd 50 tda 1541a
cd 63 ??
cd 67 ??
(for rock music cd 63 & 67 is ok, but for jazz id prefer tda dac)

besides having
philips cd 450 tda 1541
philips cd xxx (cant remember) tda 1543 < this is crap, but cdm 4/19, so chill
mission pcm 4000 souped up version of tda 1541
rotel rcc 945 pcm crap
rotel rcd 965ax ??? popular in jap
rotel rcd 955ax souped up version of tda 1541a
naim cd 3 > single crown!


wow...really amazing. some of them are really classic cdp. cheers

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Post by Dewi on Wed Feb 23, 2011 8:48 pm

http://www.vnav.vn/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=36787 to check the cdp mechanism afro

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Post by matlap on Wed Feb 23, 2011 9:12 pm

Hi khlim,what is your marantz cdp model?maybe i got the sparepart for a certain model,maybe la scratch ,have to ask my 5 years old son to find it for me...Im from KL but sometime go to jb.

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Post by khlim_77 on Thu Feb 24, 2011 7:07 pm

Hi Matlap
Please PM me your contact
anyway i m not in hurry coz i still hv another KI cdp to play with is loan by my singapore fren who intent to sell it off


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Post by azri on Fri Feb 25, 2011 7:29 pm

samn wrote:
wow...really amazing. some of them are really classic cdp. cheers


saja kumpul. so happens my interest in cdp developed in australia so i grab them as many as i can.. cheers

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Re: calling all marantz owner!!

Post by noodle88 on Fri Feb 25, 2011 8:51 pm

Hi Azri,
Why don't u own a marrantz cd94 or cd95?

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Re: calling all marantz owner!!

Post by azri on Sun Feb 27, 2011 9:19 am

often it comes with ridiculous price plus im looking for something different so i end up with naim cd 3 (cheaper but good value). Unless if its philips LHH 1000 then its something for me to consider. but its hard to get 240v version for this, normally its US/Japan version.. demm!

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