Hi-Fi 4 Sale - Malaysia / Singapore Audio Forum & Marketplace | www.hifi4sale.net
Would you like to react to this message? Create an account in a few clicks or log in to continue.







Search
 
 

Display results as :
 


Rechercher Advanced Search

440Hz.my - expanding musical horizons
Subscribe to our Feed
addtomyyahoo4 Subscribe with BloglinesAdd to netvibes
Add to Google

noise level of our rooms and sound pressure level of music playback

4 posters

Go down

noise level of our rooms and sound pressure level of music playback Empty noise level of our rooms and sound pressure level of music playback

Post by tlkoo Thu Dec 02, 2010 7:16 am

have you ever checked these?
what if the room noise level measures 90db while music is played back at like level? music playback shall be how much louder to present itself conducively?

can noise floor of hifi equipment be measured with any ordinary spl meter?
has room noise be mistaken as noise floor of equipment?



cheers

tlkoo
Frequent Contributor
Frequent Contributor

Number of posts : 346
Age : 53
Location : kuala lumpur
Registration date : 2009-05-04

Back to top Go down

noise level of our rooms and sound pressure level of music playback Empty Re: noise level of our rooms and sound pressure level of music playback

Post by tlkoo Thu Dec 02, 2010 5:58 pm

room noise measured ~45db and with airconditioner, it was ~52db which means ~7db noisier
airconditioner added ~7db noise?
Pardon my ignorance :">

tlkoo
Frequent Contributor
Frequent Contributor

Number of posts : 346
Age : 53
Location : kuala lumpur
Registration date : 2009-05-04

Back to top Go down

noise level of our rooms and sound pressure level of music playback Empty Re: noise level of our rooms and sound pressure level of music playback

Post by mugenfoo Thu Dec 02, 2010 8:14 pm

noise measurement is not like simple addition. If the aircond running measured 52dB on the SPL , then even if the other background noise of 45 dB was removed, the running aircond would still measure 52dB on an SPL meter.
mugenfoo
mugenfoo
Frequent Contributor
Frequent Contributor

Number of posts : 2668
Age : 48
Location : All over
Registration date : 2009-04-04

Character sheet
Source(s): Technics Compact-Cassette Deck
Amplification: DIY Kit 15Watt
Speakers: Pasar Road Special.

Back to top Go down

noise level of our rooms and sound pressure level of music playback Empty Re: noise level of our rooms and sound pressure level of music playback

Post by WongKK Fri Dec 03, 2010 12:02 am

mugenfoo gave the right answer Smile

If your background noise is 90dB, you need to move house. Sustained noise at that level will damage your hearing!
WongKK
WongKK
Frequent Contributor
Frequent Contributor

Number of posts : 149
Age : 52
Location : Melbourne, Australia
Registration date : 2010-11-25

Character sheet
Source(s): Playback Designs MPS-5, Micro-Seiki BL-99V
Amplification: Cary SLP-05, Cary CAD-211AE, SGR EL30S
Speakers: Acapella High Violon

Back to top Go down

noise level of our rooms and sound pressure level of music playback Empty Re: noise level of our rooms and sound pressure level of music playback

Post by tlkoo Fri Dec 03, 2010 2:55 am

10 violins playing at 80db don't add up to 800db, but do they measure higher than 80db? i guess not but why louder sound perceived? or it is there increased loudness? if 1 of the violins plays at 5db louder, you think the spl would show "85db"?

i THINK each sound source could be an entity perse churning out spl "independent" of each other thus spl of any instrument is perceived in its very own right eg a violin and piano simultaneously playing at 80db and 82db respectively shall be perceived of their spls in their very own right, but not any combined spl so to speak!!!

hypothetically when room noise is removed from any given listening room, music enjoyment therein is surely of higher quality due to least sonic contamination


emm... i have just come to think about this noise matter and thus come to realise more, lots of thanks to mgf and dr for answering




regards


tlkoo
Frequent Contributor
Frequent Contributor

Number of posts : 346
Age : 53
Location : kuala lumpur
Registration date : 2009-05-04

Back to top Go down

noise level of our rooms and sound pressure level of music playback Empty Re: noise level of our rooms and sound pressure level of music playback

Post by STC Fri Dec 03, 2010 6:14 am

Hi TLKoo,

When 1 loudspeaker is playing at 80dB, two will be about 83dB. In your example that will be about 90dB if they are playing identical sound. When you use different sound for each then it will be negligibly lower than 90dB. You can find the online calculators at sengpielaudio.com to do the math.

Generally, human hearing perception discards sound that is masked by a louder sound. This is something to do with psychoacoustics and masking. So as per you example if your music is at 60dB and you have 10 different source making 52dB noise. Your 60dB music would have been masked by the noise at about 63dB.

Studio noise level is about 20 to 30dB. Most music rooms are around 36dB or lower and that is largely due to the air conditioner noise. If your music dynamic range contains information below the threshold of room noise than it matters because you won't be hearing them.

Most high-ender with a dedicated room benefit from lower room noise because they could hear details, which would otherwise masked by the "higher" room noise. Even your ordinary CD player played in dedicated quiet room will bring out extra details.

ST
STC
STC
Frequent Contributor
Frequent Contributor

Number of posts : 420
Age : 58
Location : Klang Valley
Registration date : 2010-08-14

Character sheet
Source(s): Ambiophonics setup.
Amplification:
Speakers: Electrostatics

https://stchelvam.wixsite.com/ambiophonics3dstereo

Back to top Go down

noise level of our rooms and sound pressure level of music playback Empty Re: noise level of our rooms and sound pressure level of music playback

Post by tlkoo Fri Dec 03, 2010 12:52 pm

thanks for the explanations
no need detailed calculations but some basic conceptual understanding...



regards

tlkoo
Frequent Contributor
Frequent Contributor

Number of posts : 346
Age : 53
Location : kuala lumpur
Registration date : 2009-05-04

Back to top Go down

noise level of our rooms and sound pressure level of music playback Empty Re: noise level of our rooms and sound pressure level of music playback

Post by Sponsored content


Sponsored content


Back to top Go down

Back to top

- Similar topics

 
Permissions in this forum:
You cannot reply to topics in this forum