class D power amps
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class D power amps
any users out there? pls share. rotel, CA, bel canto just to name a few..
azri- Frequent Contributor
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T amp ? sounds gud to me..
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Re: class D power amps
Hi Azri,
i have trend audio, amp 5 and 9 and truepath from 41 hz.
truepath is the best . These Tripath chips have a analogue type of sound and are great value for money .
regards
kp93300
i have trend audio, amp 5 and 9 and truepath from 41 hz.
truepath is the best . These Tripath chips have a analogue type of sound and are great value for money .
regards
kp93300
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Re: class D power amps
I have two in DIY form. TA 2024 and TA 2020 chipsets. The TA2024 is certainly best value for money. Very tubey sound.
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Re: class D power amps
I have a pair if ICE amp from Bel Canto. They will surprise u...
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Re: class D power amps
got lah......in the subwoofers.........
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Re: class D power amps
theres one bel canto e.one s300 power amp for sale. thought of trying class D.
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They're good, detailed and refined. I have the S300i integrated. Not a lot of character but they do most things well.
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Also hear from the grape vine that Wyred for sound's ICE sounds better & cheaper... but I have no experience personally.
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thanks for the feedback. im still waiting for seller to response on my request, darn!!
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Re: class D power amps
For those of you who want to give Bel Cantos some serious auditions, please visit Flagship AV at The Waterfront, Desa Park City.
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Re: class D power amps
did you went through an audition on bel canto?
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Re: class D power amps
I have listened to Bel Canto on several occasions, both stereo and home theater systems.
Actually, I went there out of curiosity to have a look at the JBL Everest 66000 speakers and they so happen to have Bel Cantos there.
Actually, I went there out of curiosity to have a look at the JBL Everest 66000 speakers and they so happen to have Bel Cantos there.
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Won;t T amp or class D sound too analytical? Tubey sound means they are more warm than normal SS amps?
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T amp wise, they're warm alright esp. with vocals. I'd say it's their strength.
The drawback is that if you play low bit rates mp3s, it really shows how bad it is.. very 'unforgiving'.. Not my main source of music so no issues on my side..
The drawback is that if you play low bit rates mp3s, it really shows how bad it is.. very 'unforgiving'.. Not my main source of music so no issues on my side..
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Re: class D power amps
if theres no 'aral melintang' i will receive the item next tusday & share some experience.. i may match this with the rotel pre or yaqin ms 12b, or maybe rotel pre > mf x10d > bel canto.. will see
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Re: class D power amps
flavour of the month
rotel rcc 945 > audio alchemy ditb > yaqin ms12b > bel canto s300
this is my current setup. after receiving the item, immediately i change my setup that i have been using for more than a month. since this is a used unit, running it more than 100 hours has pass & so im enjoying the result spontaneously. the previous (original owner) had two of these & running with a passive pre amp!!. he gave this up after buying a pair of high efficiency speakers (106db) a match it a 2w SET. after hooking up everything i sat down & starts to listen.....
rotel rcc 945 > audio alchemy ditb > yaqin ms12b > bel canto s300
this is my current setup. after receiving the item, immediately i change my setup that i have been using for more than a month. since this is a used unit, running it more than 100 hours has pass & so im enjoying the result spontaneously. the previous (original owner) had two of these & running with a passive pre amp!!. he gave this up after buying a pair of high efficiency speakers (106db) a match it a 2w SET. after hooking up everything i sat down & starts to listen.....
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nice bro.. enjoy .. at last you get what you dreaming of..
australia boleh..
australia boleh..
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azri wrote:flavour of the month
rotel rcc 945 > audio alchemy ditb > yaqin ms12b > bel canto s300
this is my current setup. after receiving the item, immediately i change my setup that i have been using for more than a month. since this is a used unit, running it more than 100 hours has pass & so im enjoying the result spontaneously. the previous (original owner) had two of these & running with a passive pre amp!!. he gave this up after buying a pair of high efficiency speakers (106db) a match it a 2w SET. after hooking up everything i sat down & starts to listen.....
Sorry, noob here. Can I know what is the device below your CD cover?
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runemaster---bel canto
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Re: class D power amps
mimpi moon?
its true class D sounds very analog, enjoying the sound for jazz & classical mostly. but then again it does not do a good justice for hard rock musik. im going to try to match this with rotel pre amp & see how it goes. cheers
its true class D sounds very analog, enjoying the sound for jazz & classical mostly. but then again it does not do a good justice for hard rock musik. im going to try to match this with rotel pre amp & see how it goes. cheers
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Re: class D power amps
Class-D is commonly misunderstood to signify a Digital amplifier. It’s actually just the 4th letter of amplifier types: Class A, AB and C. What it really means is the fastest, simplest and most efficient way to convert electrical power into music. Our class-D amplifier architecture uses sophisticated class-A analog control circuitry to achieve low distortion and high dynamic range coupled with the eco-modern efficiency of our class-D output stage.
bel canto ~ fyi
bel canto ~ fyi
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Re: class D power amps
Check out Devialet for the latest type pf Class-D Amp.
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Re: class D power amps
my ferrari is schedule for major service next week, after that i'll grab one devialet
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azri wrote:my ferrari is schedule for major service next week, after that i'll grab one devialet
LOL
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Re: class D power amps
arremie wrote:
azri, when u gonna tolak me that bel canto cheap cheap
in the 1st place when i got that class D amp, there was a bit disappointment. its very true reviews saying e.one bel canto sounding very analogue. not flat but analogue, one will have to go for higher watts like reference 500s, 1000s, mkII with 200~500 watts/ch, to get the real bel canto grunt... mine is only 150w/ch
after some mix & match on source, speaker cables & even swapping floorstanders with fullrange, i find the results were the same, very analogue, instruments & vocals on jazz are nice, much better than my previous setup (the rotel conspiracy) worth the money but.. i cant find justice when listening to rock musik.. !! the grunt is there but not good enough for me. being unsatisfied, i decide to roll my pre ms12b 12au7. 1st choice Electro-Harmonix 12au7, good reviews, cheap & has similarity sounding with mullard 12au7. mullard or telefunken are too expensive. after rolling the tube i can say this is a good move. EH vs stock shu guang tube is so huge in differences. everything sounded much better & it gets better everyday as the tube starts to break in. money well spend, will recommend to many bel canto power amp users. looks like ms12b did it again, saves my pre+power combo & bel canto sings rock songs much better than before. even with black eyed peas the bass thumping are generous, i dont have to hate the sound no more. makes me smile everytime they are in actions..
nak bel canto?
s300 - rm4k
ref500s - rm7k
ref1000mk1- rm10k
used but in mint condition
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Re: class D power amps
Specifications:
Maximum Power Output: 300W 4 ohms, 150W 8 ohms per channel
Minimum Load: 4 ohms per channel
Frequency Response: +/- 0.05 dB 20Hz-20KHz, all loads
THD+N: 0.01% 1W, 1KHz, 4 ohms
IMD (CCIF): 0.002%, 1W, 14:15KHz, 4 ohms
Output noise: 90uVRMS A-weighted 10Hz-20KHz
Voltage gain: 27dB (single ended or balanced input)
Damping factor: >1000
Output Impedance at 100Hz: <8 milliohms
Dynamic Range: 111dB
Input Voltage for Max Output: 1.5Vrms
Input connections: Single-ended RCA or balanced XLR
RCA input impedance: 10Kohms
Balanced input impedance: 20Kohms
Output connections: 2-sets WBT 5-way safety binding posts
Standby: 10W
Size: 8.5 x 3.5 x 12[inches], 216 x 88 x 305[mm] (WxHxD)
Weight: 9lbs, 4Kg
Maximum Power Output: 300W 4 ohms, 150W 8 ohms per channel
Minimum Load: 4 ohms per channel
Frequency Response: +/- 0.05 dB 20Hz-20KHz, all loads
THD+N: 0.01% 1W, 1KHz, 4 ohms
IMD (CCIF): 0.002%, 1W, 14:15KHz, 4 ohms
Output noise: 90uVRMS A-weighted 10Hz-20KHz
Voltage gain: 27dB (single ended or balanced input)
Damping factor: >1000
Output Impedance at 100Hz: <8 milliohms
Dynamic Range: 111dB
Input Voltage for Max Output: 1.5Vrms
Input connections: Single-ended RCA or balanced XLR
RCA input impedance: 10Kohms
Balanced input impedance: 20Kohms
Output connections: 2-sets WBT 5-way safety binding posts
Standby: 10W
Size: 8.5 x 3.5 x 12[inches], 216 x 88 x 305[mm] (WxHxD)
Weight: 9lbs, 4Kg
azri- Frequent Contributor
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Re: class D power amps
Forget about the Bel Canto. Devialet is the one to get!
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Re: class D power amps
dh order, 2020 baru sampai
azri- Frequent Contributor
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Re: class D power amps
no need to order, ada ready stock at kedai kat PJ
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Re: class D power amps
really? cool, i'll pay a visit in 2020
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azri wrote:
s300 -rm4kSOLD
ref500s -rm7kSOLD
ref1000mk1-rm10kSOLD by 22 oct
used but in mint condition
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