Can a DVD Player be a CD Player replacement in sound quality?

I dont think there is a limit. Look at the length of reviews done on this forum. Can be quite lengthy.

elhefe wrote:

andlee2k wrote:Ha, why my long reply to CMboy kena potong again. My, my, why so bad HF4S?

Thought I presse the Send button already? What's wrong?

Not sure whats happening there on your laptop/PC/tablet... but for the time being, may I suggest you type your reply on word/text editor and copy and paste it here after you completed the reply. especially if its a long reply.

Thanks for the suggestion Elhefe,

Maybe I just make a few short post. FYI, I am using Unifi 10MB Biz link here, can can easily upload video over 100MB to FB without any interuptions. Aslo all the PCs we use here are higher end newer Dell PCs. But I know there are something wrong with our datacenter link recently, also due some attacks on our link from the Philippine side due the Lahad Datu intrusion. That maybe the problem.

cmboy wrote:

andlee2k wrote:Ha, why my long reply to CMboy kena potong again.

Reply to me?..Hope I didn't offend anyone. I was merely sharing what I have and use now.

Instead of "LIKE" button.. maybe should also have "DESPISE" button? (incase no-one like what I shared)!

Thanks Cmboy,

Well, that's funny, the Despise button. Guess I have to reply in a few posts. Cuts off the frustrations.

CMBoy,

You're always the technical one. As for me, just a normal user, who like to sit down and enjoy the music, those I like includes Amanda McBroom, Rebecca Pidgeon, Tracy Chapman. And I've never opened the JVC to look into it's innards despite owning it for 2 decades, let alone take up the soldering iron and take out this sc and replace it with a Sanken. If not for online photos, I've never seen the K2 chip.

Also, if I was hit with the "hifi bug" of having to upgrade, change, improve, then this JVC is history by now. But I am satisfied with the SQ of this machine along with my current systems. In fact I am still using the same AQ Type 4 cable, the 1st gen one going from amp into the speaker. I used to have a pair of Hitachi speaker cables to bi-wire the Heybrook, borrowed from my brother. Sine he took it back, I borrowed a pair of AQ F14 from my friend. Only recently bought a pair if Wireworld, the cheaper Luna for biwire duty. And the Heybrook, I've been having it for more than 2 decades. You cannot even find it's info from their site. And I don't even have a DAC, although I know adding a DAC will much improve the sound of the JVC from the review here: http://www.highfidelityreview.com/jvc-xl-z1050tn.html.

John Hoffman the reviewer noted:
I recently acquired a JVC XL-Z1050TN CD player to use as a transport with an Audio Magic Kukama DAC. During the process of purchasing the DAC, I spoke with Henry Lamb who is the designer of the Kukama. Henry had many positive comments about the JVC as a transport, and he used a JVC XL-Z1010 as a transport during the development process of the Kukama.

Many vintage players have a flowing presentation, but in the process lose the fine detail of the music. This combination of detail and graceful presentation separates the XL-Z1050TN from the pack of affordable CD transports on the market.

But then, I am not one easily "poisoned" or hit by the hifi upgrade fewer.

And CMBoy,

About chasing after "Audio Nirvana", back in my schooldays, my borthers friend most have the Linn LP12. That's the reference back then along with the Naka Dragon. If I did not remember wrongly, they even have a Nakamichi car audio player, but installed in a Nissan Sunny. And that was the joke of the town, a high end car audio in a cheap car. And those LP12 owners, they place it on a solid concrete block, hang it onto the ceiling with four chains for total isolation, just for that extra bit of "added detail, something mine sound better than yours. Fortunately in did not turn ugly, like into fights.

Then you have the caress the whole thing like keeping the mat, album and everything, ensuring it's free from fungus, get those anti-static sleeves, the felt brush, the special imported liquid to clean the tip of the diamond cartridge everytime pre/aft the record playing.....and all sorts of quirky thins they do, and purchase, just to chase after that....ooommph. And worst is, after a click or pop, the session have to be halted and and restarted, the song have to be killed all over again. Then there is the balancing the tonearm,anti-skating, stylus pressure. Whoa...............that's it. I'm getting out of this.

This cd player thing, well like I told you, I am not after chasing after the multi-bit, single bit and the latest 32 bit processing. What matters more to me is to be able to enjoy the songs I like. And that is after getting the system sound right. And after a hard days work, and during weekend, before I retire or when I wake up, I will turn on the systems, put in my favorite cds, site down, press the play button......have a session of The Eagles, Eric Clapton Unplugged, some sentimentals.....enjoy the music.

And CMBoy,

That come to my current predicament, where I could not get to enjoy some of my favorite or latest cd purchase. As the player refused to play some of my new purchase and skips on some scratched ones. Actually, I've shelved the JVC and cds for a couple of years and only recently took them out of cold storage. And despite cleaning the cds, it still skips on these. Of course the much newer Pana dvd player can all of them. Then the Pana also can play cd-rs. This one cannot, there is no cd-rs when it was released, I mean the JVC. Also the Pana SQ is no way on par with the JVC.

Actually I heard the Primare DVD26 demoed by CMY during the KLIAV. This is the smae model they offered me, a demo-clear stock model. But the they also suggested I go for the Oppo BD93. Although I watched a lot of DVD, I bought all original, I've never bought any BD. This because even the price of the original DVDs are quite high, more so the BDs. Actually to me, all these are just to pay the licensee more money, although the lossless tech of course sound much better.

Even though my Yammy can support up to 11.2 channels and can support all these latest techs, it doesn't matter. We all are getting older, and our hearing, except for those with golden ears, is not improving, I believe. So how much more can we actually hear? The Yamaha, I bought this b'cos my Pioneer AX5ai-s konked out on me. One fine day while listening to some music, there was a thunder where the lightning came directly into the house. you can actually feel that, and there goes the amp. Hiway said Pioneer could not get any spares for it. Too old. Else I'll still be using component/composite right now. Cannot support HDMI. Fortunately the whole house is insured and we can claim insurance for that.

And since I can see that I'll keep buying some more cds and the JVC might not be able to play it, I've said why not get a new machine and the machine already served me some 20+ years. And that's why I came here seeking the advise of all you sifus here.

And of course with family to support, sure am prudent, so decided to take up max RM2.5k. And it's not going after those Wadia, ML or AR, those I know from my part-time study working for a hi-end hifi shop, where they have the Theta, AR CDPs. Whao.... those are way off my budget.

And I am also the kind who would not waste others time, until I've shorlist the cdp I am looking for eg. Primare DVD26, Oppo BD93, Yamaha CD-S700 or S1000 or maybe the Analogue Audio Primo CD Player(but this one Teac cd drive).

Appreciate anyone familiar with the sound, whether they are bright and better still have experience having the cd used with av amps.

Elhefe's BD95 is bright into the Yammy but a review here with the Yammy using the Oppo 95 to be very good. But the the Yamaha Adventage series av amps are reviewed to be musical even by Hometheater.com. The review link for the Yammy using the Oppo is here: http://www.hdfever.fr/2011/12/12/test-yamaha-rx-a3010-aventage/#postTabs_ul_25501

That's why Elhefe I asked what model Yamaha av amp you are using as it just might be the settings. These brutes have a lot of configuration options to tune the sound with.

Thanks.

Wwaaaahhh u can speak French? The review is done in French. Or I am missing an English version of it.

The Oppo 95 is being raved upon due to the DAC its using. I am not giving its full credit as I have not put in full effort to get it sound right for CD replay, mainly because that the Oppo and Yammy are not my 2 channel set up. Only for movies which of course, I love them for that.

Dear Chin66,

Hmmm, interesting. I've always wanted to test it's analogue out. I bought it mainly due it's built-in dac for both video and audio. But thru HDMI, it sounds bright. Maybe the AV amps setting, or even the cables used. I've once configured the systems to be super smooth, this quite complicated amp as have Q setting, Freq setting and Band Gain settings, where the vocal and instruments just stayed when you kept increasing the volume. Of course the soundstage got bigger, and the bass hit harder as well as your heartbeat. My tweaker brain won't rest as that's manual settings, so I ran YPAO again and everything changed. Now there's a slight top edge to the sound, what you called "bright sound". I could not remember what I set earlier despite changing the settings again and again.

So Andlee2k, have you test using the analogue out from the Pana into yr Yammy? How do you like the sound?

Gee.. didn't know yr Yammy has so many options to tweak the sound thru digital input . Mayb that will be my choice when my own AV amp konks.

As far as my current Marantz AV amp goes, if you feed analogue signals into it (like connecting the Pana to it using IC) there is only the sound mode settings to play with. I normally set it to 'Direct' or 'Pure Direct' mode if playing CDs to enjoy the music.

As to the sound being too bright, I think there are various ways to tweak the brightness which include substituting with different IC, PC, adding cones etc etc etc... jz read the other topics in this forum and you'll understand what i mean. That's the fun of it ....tweaking a little bit here and there

Dear Chin66,

I went the whole lot and tested the Pioneer top range, the Onkyo, the Marantz. Of these the Marantz is the most musical. Of course these are the int top range, not the pre/pro.

Then I went to AL Audio and tested the Yamaha, the speaker is the Dali Ikon 6, I think the MKII, and list at RM8k. I found it to be the most musical, and that is my taste. Others might differ. So I bought it straight away. Maybe the MK speakers used in Hiway are too bright.

There is really no point testing the video, as the latest lossless will sound about the same. It's just the power. The Yammy have the Vida processor, and the most configurable. The other with the Vida, are not so configurable. Here's the reviews of the Yamaha RX-A3010. Hometheater.com only reiewed the lower models 2010 and 1010 and found both to be musical.

1. http://www.areadvd.de/hardware/2011/yamaha_rx_a3010.shtml

2. http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=186575

3. http://www.hdfever.fr/2011/12/12/test-yamaha-rx-a3010-aventage/#postTabs_ul_25501

4. http://www.whathifi.com/review/yamaha-rx-a3010

5. http://www.homecinemachoice.com/news/article/yamaha-rx-a3010-av-receiver-review/10783

Here are some of the links.

Dear Chin66,

I went the whole lot and tested the Pioneer top range, the Onkyo, the Marantz. Of these the Marantz is the most musical. Of course these are the int top range, not the pre/pro.

Then I went to AL Audio and tested the Yamaha, the speaker is the Dali Ikon 6, I think the MKII, and list at RM8k. I found it to be the most musical, and that is my taste. Others might differ. So I bought it straight away. Maybe the MK speakers used in Hiway are too bright.

There is really no point testing the video, as the latest lossless will sound about the same. It's just the power. The Yammy have the Vida processor, and the most configurable. The other with the Vida, are not so configurable. Here's the reviews of the Yamaha RX-A3010. Hometheater.com only reiewed the lower models 2010 and 1010 and found both to be musical.

1. http://www.areadvd.de/hardware/2011/yamaha_rx_a3010.shtml

2. http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=186575

3. http://www.hdfever.fr/2011/12/12/test-yamaha-rx-a3010-aventage/#postTabs_ul_25501

4. http://www.whathifi.com/review/yamaha-rx-a3010

5. http://www.homecinemachoice.com/news/article/yamaha-rx-a3010-av-receiver-review/10783

Here are some of the links.

Dear Andlee2k,

Wah lauyeh....you really do your homework when choosing yr equipment . Even able to comprehend foreign language reviews as in the 1st and 3rd link .... in German and French i think.

Anyway thanks for the link on these Yammy AV. Must read up those reviews including getting translator to translate those foreign articles

Dear Chin66 and Elhefe,

1. Not yet tested. No time yet.

2. If you use the Chrome browser, can set the browser to translate to English. Even can set Option to translate to set language everytime.

As for homework, I got my traning since young. Brothers and their friend playing hifi. so I along. then worked part time in hi-end hifi shop. The AR specialist, Mr. Kuan, really admire him. When setup new demo room, all he do is walked to where the aircon duct is on place on the ceiling, clapped his hand and decided that part need sound tuning. And that was about 15+ years ago. I dunno where he is now, somewhere in a shop (Absolute Sound?)in Amcorp. Then they have all these Audio Research tube amps (very huge), Hales speaker weighing about 100 pounds or kgs each. Needs 2 guys to carry one........

And all, sorry as I forgot to tell you. I am an IT guy. I dig info all the time and whenever I can.

Thanks.

I got a surprise lately and that is after Mr. Oh asked me to bring along those cds that the JVC refused to play when I meet him, so I took out the stubborn Mariah Carey collection cd ad well as the Tears for Fears, and to my suprise, all palyed perfectly without any hiccups. This after I've recently installed the Yaqin power filter.

It newer occurred to me the power in my house is just so dirty, or there is so much emi/rfi inteference. I don't have the time to test the skipping yet. Now only 101 cd cannot play and that is the Eurythmics. But the question have to rest on future cd purchase, whehter if these the JVC can play.

Chin66,
I know why I didn't test the rca out of the Pana S38. The audio out jacks are too close to the hdmi. After inserting the wireworld hdmi cable (connector a bit larger), and also the wireworld rac cable connector is also larger than the standard red&white cable jacks; cannot go into the rca jack of the dvd. I reckon there is no need fr that as I am already using the hdmi output of the dvd player.

elhefe wrote:Wwaaaahhh u can speak French? The review is done in French. Or I am missing an English version of it.

The Oppo 95 is being raved upon due to the DAC its using. I am not giving its full credit as I have not put in full effort to get it sound right for CD replay, mainly because that the Oppo and Yammy are not my 2 channel set up. Only for movies which of course, I love them for that.

Dear Elhefe,
I don't know which model Yamaha AV amp you are using as the GUI and configuration options maybe different, but here's a simple but effective guide. (you can download the pdf for future reference. There are also a lot of support forums that helps guide you on how to setup the Ypao and configure for room enviroments. And different memories for maybe 1 for AV and 2 for stereo. Hope this helps)

http://www.reviewboard.com/2010/05/30/181/yamaha-rx-z7-7-1-channel-receiver-review/

chin66 wrote:

Dear Chin66,

I went the whole lot and tested the Pioneer top range, the Onkyo, the Marantz. Of these the Marantz is the most musical. Of course these are the int top range, not the pre/pro.

Then I went to AL Audio and tested the Yamaha, the speaker is the Dali Ikon 6, I think the MKII, and list at RM8k. I found it to be the most musical, and that is my taste. Others might differ. So I bought it straight away. Maybe the MK speakers used in Hiway are too bright.

There is really no point testing the video, as the latest lossless will sound about the same. It's just the power. The Yammy have the Vida processor, and the most configurable. The other with the Vida, are not so configurable. Here's the reviews of the Yamaha RX-A3010. Hometheater.com only reiewed the lower models 2010 and 1010 and found both to be musical.

1. http://www.areadvd.de/hardware/2011/yamaha_rx_a3010.shtml

2. http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=186575

3. http://www.hdfever.fr/2011/12/12/test-yamaha-rx-a3010-aventage/#postTabs_ul_25501

4. http://www.whathifi.com/review/yamaha-rx-a3010

5. http://www.homecinemachoice.com/news/article/yamaha-rx-a3010-av-receiver-review/10783

Here are some of the links.

Dear Andlee2k,

Wah lauyeh....you really do your homework when choosing yr equipment . Even able to comprehend foreign language reviews as in the 1st and 3rd link .... in German and French i think.

Anyway thanks for the link on these Yammy AV. Must read up those reviews including getting translator to translate those foreign articles

Actually Chin66,

For a cash strapped and poor guy like me, definitely have to do my homework properly, so I won't end up with what I don't want. I'd rather wait than go for the latest, and the mostest......etc.

The Yamaha was already replaced with the RX-A3020 which ow received very rave review. Whathifi, known to be biased over Pioneer have no choice but to give the 3010 5 Stars but a bit reluctantly in Oct 2011. Homecinemachoice only reviewed the amp very late in March 2013. Hometheater.com also known to be biased towards Pioneer refused to review it, despite I asked a few times.

But now you can see glowing review of their latest RX-A3020. Thye simply cannot deny it's prowess anymore. Maybe due it' popularity, they received advert money now. The link:

1. http://www.whathifi.com/review/rx-a3020

2. http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/article/yamaha-rx-a3020-av-receiver?page=0,0

S&V Mag have this to say in conclusion after measurement:

The Yamaha RX-A3020 measured almost identically to the earlier, RX-A2010 model we reviewed in the January 2012 issue; in fact, the hardware essentials may well be entirely the same. Power delivery was comfortably above Yamaha’s 150-watt spec (just 10 watts more than the earlier model’s) and stayed north of 60 watts even with 7 channels driven, the maximum we’re equipped to measure simultaneously. Noise, distortion, and linearity were all world-class, about as near you can come to the theoretical limits of our dithered-signal real-world tests. If you’re looking for an A/V receiver with better test-bench performance, don’t, because you won’t find it.

Disclaimer:
All the above comments are my Personal Opinion, and are not meant to "discredit" anyone or any parties, neither do I mean to insult.

Thanks.

zeebee wrote:Andlee2k,

Sorry, my story kena 'potong' before finish.. Typing on IPad really leceh when trying to edit.....

BD 83 r selling about $300-$400 on Audiogon n can be shipped here relatively cheap n safe.. Peter Seow can be a great help to get this done...

There a few modded versions too of the BD 83 if u r interested n no issues with the voltage as it is user selectable ...
My two sens worth..

Dear Zeebee,

Can I have Peter Seow's contact please?

Thanks in advance.

Hi Andlee2k n someone who pm-ed me

Peter Seow's contact details-

Tel :+65 9855 9975
Email: peterseow66@hotmail.com

His freight/ shipping cost is very reasonable but so far I've only shipped from the US. He mentioned that preferably the unit to be about 10 kg but will provide you the estimate n how it's derived. I understand that for anything shipped from EU or UK, be prepared to wait but will be delivered nonetheless (a fellow forummer experienced this). He's very friendly and helpful... So far no issues when delivering from the other side of the Causeway, tax or custom duties wise. So Peter, when you read this post, next time extra discounts for me larrr

zeebee wrote:Hi Andlee2k n someone who pm-ed me

Peter Seow's contact details-

Tel :+65 9855 9975
Email: peterseow66@hotmail.com

His freight/ shipping cost is very reasonable but so far I've only shipped from the US. He mentioned that preferably the unit to be about 10 kg but will provide you the estimate n how it's derived. I understand that for anything shipped from EU or UK, be prepared to wait but will be delivered nonetheless (a fellow forummer experienced this). He's very friendly and helpful... So far no issues when delivering from the other side of the Causeway, tax or custom duties wise. So Peter, when you read this post, next time extra discounts for me larrr

Thanks Zeebee,
Actually I am not the one who asked for his contact. A forumer here PMed me for his details. So I asked you for it.

For me, I prefer buy something new when I can as it comes with at least 1 yr warranty. Both items offered by CMY comes with warranty, so's the Yamaha CD-S700, S1000 & the AA Primo CD.

Unless I've got no other choices.

Thanks for you sugestions anyway. You been of great help.

Thanks Andlee2k for sharing more on the merits of the Yammy AV and cool to know there is a translator feature in Chrome. I'll be migrating soon from my IE browser to Chrome.

Oh btw I google on the Pana DVD S38 and seems there is a 24 bit/192 kHz DAC inside. No wonder the SQ is not bad thru the analogue output..

Dear Chin,

Yup, the very reason I bought it but I paid a few hundred bucks for it. Also the video dac 12bit/108Mhz which is quite high standard. I choosed the Pana as I knew they researched into and advanced the video chip called Phaidon (something like that) chipset for the earliest BD player. The BD player is very expensive at the time, RM2k+.

FYI, the JVC did not skip on the cds known to skip like the MJ-Bad and the Jacky Cheung-HK CD. Others not yet tested. But it stalled on a very new CD, sentimental collection. This is after it was connected to the new Yaqin power filter.

Another thing, the latest Yamaha RX-A3020 only retails for RM4690 in AL audio, Sg. Wang. This as a forumer PMed me and was thinking to buy in S'pore. I told him much cheaper here. So I called AL Audio on his behalf. Another of it's feature is it can support SACD direct, and have USB input as well as iPhone support for the tech savvy guys.

Why I did not go for the Marantz 7005 is the tech is too outdated. For a bit more I can get a much higher end Av amp, with top end features and stellar sound. I find the Yamaha to sound better than the Marantz, maybe the testing environment, and especially the speaker used.

Will meet Mr. Oh this Saturday. Will update you all on what happened.

Thanks.

For your update,

Met Mr. Oh and he is much younger looking than I imagined. I always thought he looked like an old uncle, with white hairs and maybe a bit hunch and with bulges around his waist, but not so, he's slim and tall, with black hair and looked much younger, and is a very nice person. indeed his house is a treasure trove of vintage hifi, those I saw but never owned from my school days.

And Chin66, I finally managed to connect the rca out of the Pana S38 to my amp and initial impression was quite good. Will need some time to listen more, and also this is my only source for cd playback right now although I have amedia player but seldom used now, mainly to backup my music collections, as although using a hi-end chipset, the hdmi output is not so satisfying. Maybe I've not took the time to let it run-in.

just got the other day the pioneer bdp450 as recommended by av2day blogger as a cd transport cos it got shuffle play feature which marantz dun have (a long story which i wld delve in another post)...prelim result is the 450 is not as dynamic as the marantz na7004...will present my user review soon..in the meantime, i wld conclude nothing can replace a cd player as i oso have a cambridge audio dvd99 which oso can't match the 7004....

Update: Took back the JVC from Mr. Oh. He adjusted the laser and tracking and it cost me RM50 only. Have yet to test it but while browsing for online info, found this:

In 1991, Harry Pierson, editor of The Absolute Sound, called the JVC XL-Z1050 the first CD player worth listening to. I was writing record and CD reviews for TAS at the time, and I needed a good CD player so I could make good judgments about the quality of the recordings. This unit is what the magazine staff recommended for me.

Link:- http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/JVC-XL-Z1050TH-CD-player-first-CD-player-worth-listening-to-/160888141637

I also found this:


AnthonyMM: 5 months ago
The JVC XL-Z1050 CD player was a recommended component back in the early 90's and it is still believed to be one of the best sounding CD players ever made.
Link:-http://www.ask.com/answers/247142821/where-can-i-find-a-jvc-xl-z-1050

And the best is this:

For those without $5,800, consider the JVC XL-Z1050TN CD player. This beautifully designed player, operates quickly and smoothly, and sounds great. It`s the best sounding $800 CD player that we`ve heard. JVC builds the XL-Z1050TN around its proprietary one-bit phase edge modulation digital to analog converter coupled with its VANS (JVC Advanced Noise Shaper) circuit. JVC separates the digital and analog sections of the player with its K2 interface that prevents unwanted digital byproducts from ``contaminating`` the analog signal.

The titanium face of the unit with its dual amber and red displays separated by the disc-loading drawer is stunning. JVC sized the control plates by their importance. Large power- and play-control keys occupy opposite corners, with a very long drawer open/close key just below and to the left of the drawer. Four smaller keys to the lower right control basic tape functions. A swing-down panel hides the less necessary controls, including a numeric keypad for direct track access. A remote control duplicates all front panel controls.

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The XL-Z1050TN tracks 8 of the 16 tracks of the eccentric ABEX test disc. The nearly flat loading tray requires careful seating of the disc for proper performance. The player should be positioned below eye level.

Of course, I would prefer the Linn to the JVC. Listening to the Linn is like viewing the stars from space above earth`s atmosphere. Listening to the JVC is like viewing the stars from the desert on an exceptionally clear night. Most of us will never fly the space shuttle, but we can afford a drive to the desert.

Link:- http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1992-04-03/entertainment/9201300821_1_reference-player-test-disc-audiophile

Sorry all for the long absence. I have since bought the Marantz UD5007 for some time and also finally resolved the issue of the JVC. The venerable Mr. Oh changed the loading mechanism/gears and thus far, apart for some badly scratched discs, it can play normally without skipping.

Indeed the JVC is a diamond in the rough as compared to the Marantz, the sound is rougher (actually more detailed), whereas the Marantz is actually not resolving some sounds, like Dire Straights - Brothers in Arms - the thunder in the beginning and the Spanish Harlem - Rebecca Pigeon, the hand claps on the right. As the Marantz is smoother, the bass is heavier, have more impact. The JVC, is more forward whereas the Marantz more recessed. But when playing Teresa Teng, you can hear the JVC have more control. The Marantz dynamics is a bit overwhelming, where you just find the whole orchestra is out of control.

And I've also resolved the sound of my systems after tuning the YPAO, suddenly turned bright. Elhefe, for your Yamaha AV amp, you have to set the "Distance" a bit shorter. Means if you are sitting 8 feet away from the main LR speakers. And you've set the distance between you and the speakers 8 feet away, and you found the sound too bright, you can try shortening the distance to 7.5" and as you experiment with the setting, I believe you can set it right.

Hi,

I am no audiophile .. closer to a HTphile and from what I have read and believe a cdp is loads better in playing music as compared to a video player [ current hd withstanding] . I do believe the Oppo range of bdp now exist is because most people want a one machine solution to their entertainment centers - hence the ability of de latter oppos ability to even play mkvs/iso files but I digress.. If up to me n I want a musical sounding 2 channel set up - I d get a half decent cdp. But if you do dabble in video, even a little, then an oppo 103/105 or even a pioneer bdp 450[definitely not de same range] is a solution..
BTW, I do run a cheaper Oppo bdp80 but I can't really tell how 'musical' it sounds as I am more into HT..

D

Actually,

Dirtrun, I am a AV enthusiast or what you called HTPhile too. My current setup involves 9.1 speakers/sub. My Yammy have Heights Channels for both front/back(only setup the fronts heights)

But I found most famous BD movies limited to 5.1 lossless, which is a waste, as that's what's found on most DVDs, not to mention EX (7.1).

Today choosing systems, due a lot of constraints, I would get a higher end AV Receivers first, as one that can balance out both stereo & AV multi channels, I can easily get the more musical power amps later. So the AV Receiver, must comes with a lot of configuration options, for my requirements. The reason for Yammy. And that is after much reviewing of other brands at dealers. 

And as for musical, the output or sound of the systems, playing the songs. It just moves you, or makes you want to tap you feet. Or something like that. No need to be a super expert. Even when someone were to tell you that is a super high end hi-fi, but what came out of it, in lifeless, or even ear-piercing. Then you know right away it's not right. Better get out of such company.

Hi,

Agreed that what is most important is what our own ears like de most - in spite of what other reviewers opinions are.. Lets take your Yammy avr - technically in most reviews, it should not be more 'musical' than say a corresponding Marantz but since you like it - its all tat matters..
I have used Yammys before [ a old 520 ] , in my old setup, its a tad more 'bassy' than my current pioneer 911..
In my main HT, I have the Marantz 7002 to my Tannoy LCR - in 2 channel music - its fine, not great but passable but then again, mine is set up for watching movies not music.. I guess its a compromise..

Coming avr tech will comprise Atmos decoding - dont tink itll be worth changing just for tis .. for me anyway..

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Just an update:

I thought it's the lens problem and found an online site selling the lens replacement they advertised as new. So I bought the new lens and pass it with the player to the venerable Mr. Oh to repair.

He told me some of the transistor used by the lens is bloated and he changed these transisitor but not the lens, as still good. (The lens I bought is not new and is weaker then my player original lens. So much for buying things online from the US)

And now the player is singing like a song, thanks to the venerable Mr.Oh. The Magic hands in hifi repair.